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To: Havoc
LOL. They don't and they aren't using trig, they're using physics and do not know all the variables. Sorry. The speed at which light moves is dependant upon the substance it is moving through and the resistance applied. Science has no idea what light from distant stars might be filtered through. It is thus impossible to determine distance. A duh moment here. Thus the distance becomes an argument of ideology - not a statement of fact. But that doesn't stop the ideologues from stating their screwups as facts.

You do not know of what you speak. It's trigonometry, plain and simple. The relationships involved are completely independent of the medium it passes through. Read the relavant posts before you pontificate. Your posts are looking increasingly ridiculous and paranoid.

481 posted on 08/13/2003 6:58:54 AM PDT by ThinkPlease (Fortune Favors the Bold!)
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To: ThinkPlease
Agreed. If the light from distant stars were being filtered through anything, then it would travel slower, not faster, so the suggestion that because we don't know what such light passes through would somehow allow for a faster lightspeed is nonsensical. Also, there is considerable knowledge of what such light travels through, and these observed distortions only verify the distance estimates otherwise determined by redshifts alone. Anyone can do a Google search on the expression "Lyman forest" for a decent explanation of this.
484 posted on 08/13/2003 7:14:54 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: ThinkPlease
You do not know of what you speak. It's trigonometry, plain and simple. The relationships involved are completely independent of the medium it passes through. Read the relavant posts before you pontificate. Your posts are looking increasingly ridiculous and paranoid.

No, it's physics. You can't change the laws of physics just to suit yourself. basic trig does not account for the physics involving obstructions. You must then climb the ladder to physics and Calc. And snipers know that even on a clear day, this is true. Screws up your "science" to admit you have no idea what obstructions may be out there to slow the travel of the light emerging. But it betrays you to admit you aren't accounting for them. Thank you.

512 posted on 08/13/2003 9:47:08 AM PDT by Havoc (If you can't be frank all the time are you lying the rest of the time?)
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