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Ziglar Defects. A ex Bush-administration official lashes out.
National Review ^ | 8/11/03 | John Fonte

Posted on 08/11/2003 8:46:25 AM PDT by DPB101

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1 posted on 08/11/2003 8:46:25 AM PDT by DPB101
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If Ziglar was speaking to the ACLU, it is obvious he was a Clinton holdover. If he wasn't, Bush has more problems than I originally thought.
2 posted on 08/11/2003 8:48:52 AM PDT by Lazamataz (PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999!)
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To: Lazamataz
commissioner of the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) from August 2001 to November 2002

That time frame suggests against Mr. Zigler being a holdover...

3 posted on 08/11/2003 8:56:16 AM PDT by L,TOWM (Liberals, The Other White Meat)
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To: Lazamataz
Stealth Clintonista, Laz. Here is his biography, from his nomination (and let's remember this nomination was done before 9/11 and while Daschle had just become majority leader through weasel tactics):

Ziglar was elected as the 35th Sergeant at Arms and Doorkeeper of the Senate in October 1998. Prior to his election, he served as Managing Director of Paine Webber Incorporated in the firm's Municipal Securities Group. He was a member of the Paine Webber Operating Committee, the Municipal Securities Group Executive Committee and served as the Chairman of the Municipal Securities Group Operating Committee. During that time, Mr. Ziglar had responsibility for the National Infrastructure Finance Group and the West Coast General Markets Group.

In addition to his 23 years in the public sector finance industry, he has worked in various capacities of the federal government. He served as Assistant Secretary of Interior for Water and Science from 1987 to 1988, where he directed the operations of the Bureau of Reclamation, the U.S. Geological Survey and the Bureau of Mines. He served a member of the Senior Advisory Group on Water Governance of the Advisory Committee on Intergovernmental Relations and was the joint recipient of the Water Statesman of the Year Award from the National Water Resources Association in 1988.

Looks to me like he is a career guy and perpetual bureaucrat.

4 posted on 08/11/2003 8:56:46 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: L,TOWM
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/04/20010427-6.html

He was a Clinton holdover, of sorts. Prior to the INS job, he was a doorman...:)
5 posted on 08/11/2003 8:59:15 AM PDT by =Intervention= (White devils for Sharpton Central Florida chapter)
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To: Miss Marple
Michelle Malkin:
Good riddance to James Ziglar, the hopeless head of the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) who announced his resignation last week.

This is a man whose main qualifications for the nation's top immigration enforcement job were his boyhood friendship with Senate Minority Leader Trent Lott and his effortless ability to suck up to Sen. Ted Kennedy.

This is a man whose law enforcement background consisted of less than three years as the U.S. Senate's sergeant-at-arms and doorkeeper, protecting the Senate gavel and playing Senate hall monitor.

This is a man who freely admitted before his confirmation that he had "no discernible experience in immigration law and policy."

This is a man whose idea of increasing U.S.-Mexican border security was to give his beleaguered agents pepperball guns . . .continued


6 posted on 08/11/2003 9:05:03 AM PDT by DPB101
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To: Lazamataz
Ziglar was virtually a spokesman for 'open borders' immigration. He had zero background for INS Commissioner but was selected to pander to the Hispanic lobby and demonstrate the administration's disinterest in doing anything to control the border. This was back when Bush was contemplating another 'amnesty' for illegals. 9-11 made Ziglar a liability and led to his removal. The administration is still comitted to doing little to stop the flow of illegals and instead just figures all of us are terrorist suspects (no profiling of Arabs now that would offend the 'Religion of peace' and the Bush family's Saudi friends.) The same out of control situation prevails on the Tx-Ariz-Ca border and the flood of illegals pretty much unabated. Ziglar just had to big a mouth and was to attached to libertarian sloganeering on immigration to last.
7 posted on 08/11/2003 9:06:06 AM PDT by robowombat
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To: Lazamataz
Is he from the same INS that issued a visa renewal to Mohhamed Atta 6 months to the day after the attack?
8 posted on 08/11/2003 9:09:38 AM PDT by Guillermo (Proud Infidel)
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To: Lazamataz
Ziglar is an absolute incompetent; if I'm not mistaken, his last job before INS commissioner was Sergeant at Arms for the U.S. Senate, a cushy, political appointee position with a nice salary and no real responsibility, other than calling a car for Senator Kennedy when has a little too much Dewar's.

Under Ziglar's "leadership," INS did little to close the loopholes exposed after 9-11. His resignation as INS director was demanded, and rightfully so. At least he found the "right" audience as a speaker; I can't think of any organization--aside from the ACLU--that would actually applaud his drivel.

9 posted on 08/11/2003 9:13:37 AM PDT by Spook86
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*sing-song voice* Some-body got fire-d, some-body got fire-d ...
10 posted on 08/11/2003 9:17:46 AM PDT by pogo101
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To: Miss Marple
Ziglar was elected as the 35th Sergeant at Arms and Doorkeeper of the Senate in October 1998

Did he wear that goofy little uniform I see hotel doormen wearing?

11 posted on 08/11/2003 9:17:51 AM PDT by Lazamataz (PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999!)
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To: Guillermo
He's also the guy whose organization let in the Beltway sniper. He's just pissed he was forced out for his incompetance.
12 posted on 08/11/2003 9:31:34 AM PDT by cwb
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To: =Intervention=
Proving once again that sometimes, "inclusiveness" is a bad thing...
13 posted on 08/11/2003 9:38:37 AM PDT by L,TOWM (Liberals, The Other White Meat)
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To: DPB101
One of two things happening here....

A. Clinton holdover or

B. Newly discovered Loserdopian

You make the call. :o)
14 posted on 08/11/2003 9:39:02 AM PDT by VaBthang4 (Could someone show me one [1] Loserdopian elected to the federal government?)
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To: VaBthang4
How can you tell the difference?
15 posted on 08/11/2003 9:53:04 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: DPB101
Good riddance!
16 posted on 08/11/2003 9:58:28 AM PDT by JesusIsLord
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James Ziglar: I am a Libertarian -- We are at War with Our own Government!

http://www.americanpatrol.com/INS/ZIGLAR/FireZiglar020227.html

He can call himself a Libertarian --- I have another name for him.
17 posted on 08/11/2003 10:07:43 AM PDT by onyx (Name an honest democrat? I can't either!)
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To: DPB101
and from killing both Americans and non-Americans who live here
What an odd interjection. Does he mean to imply that it is worse because foreigners might also be killed?

To say that there are only two basic positions on the new security laws, Ashcroft or the ACLU, with us or the enemy, is nonsense. There are a lot of ctitical opinions on the PATRIOT act from Conservatives and Libertarians who detest the ACLU. But of course these "flyover country" types aren't considered to be fully human by the East Coast Establishment (and their Quislings) and their opinions can be safely ignored.

It is almost inconceivable that international terrorist attacks could have occured in America of 1950, and even if they had it would have been a simple matter to round up the terrorists, most of whom would have stuck out like a sore thumb, throw them out and prevent them from coming back or coming in the first place. But when you invite the world to colonize your nation you invite the world's crime, strife, wars, and hatreds in at the same time, and militarized police and PATRIOT acts are necessary to keep a lid on the unnatural society that results. To choose multiculturalism as the pinnacle of public morality is to ultimately choose a police state. (A somewhat amusing example of this conflict between Mutli-culti and freedom is the spectacle of Grandmothers being forced to be felt-up at airports so that the system can pretend that it is not singling out Arabs and Southwestern Asians.) Arguments about security arrangements or the failure of the CIA or FBI to prevent 9-11 are just red herrings to avoid discussing the real problem.

2,000 illegal aliens from the Middle East have been deported. Out of what, 50,000? 100,000? A million? They should all be rounded-up and deported, both as a matter of upholding the concept of democratically-made law, and so we won't have to curb our freedoms because of their presence.

18 posted on 08/11/2003 10:09:19 AM PDT by jordan8
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Asscroft the foot-washer and Zigler the quasi-Mexican are both morons who work against America's better interests. One uses the authority of the executive to empower foreigners and the other to empower government employees. Neither gives a flying crap about the law or empowering the average citizen.

They both suck and this author is a pea-brained clown.
19 posted on 08/11/2003 10:10:36 AM PDT by AAABEST
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To: Miss Marple
ROFLSAG!
20 posted on 08/11/2003 10:20:44 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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