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To: TigersEye
59 - "Why? Nothing of your own to believe in nothing of your own to say?"

Actually, yes, I do. I studied this problem of 'God', the universe, and a creator, and could not answer the questions:

1. If the universe had to have a creator, and that Creator was 'God', then who created the 'Creator'? And if 'he always was, and always shall be, then why could not the universe 'always be and always shall be'.

2. Where are we? - On earth, in the solar system, in the Milky Way Galaxy, in the Universe, and just where is the universe?

So, I figure that if there is a God, at least a God I would believe in, he would understand my questions. And if there is an afterlife, he would rather have an 'Honest' agnostic, rather than a hyocritical believer.

I am happy for 'believers' that they 'believe', as I know that 'believing' gives a lot of psyhological comfort. Life is much easier when you 'know'. But it is much harder on those who you try to force your beliefs. Just look at all the Muslim 'believers', who basically say - 'believe my way or I will kill you'. And the Spanish conquistadors, who poured molton gold down the throats of the Aztecs, to 'save' them, and make them 'Christian'.
64 posted on 08/15/2003 3:16:14 AM PDT by XBob
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To: XBob
TE: 59 - "Why? Nothing of your own to believe in nothing of your own to say?"

Actually, yes, I do. I studied this problem of 'God', the universe, and a creator, and could not answer the questions:

Yet you can't put forth one proposition on the subject of abortion without basing it on what 'God' is or isn't, thinks or doesn't think or does or doesn't do.

You must criticize your 'friends' and fellow 'deists' here, not me.

Why? They are not talking to me about God you are. Every response you've made to me has been propped up with "if God thinks this" and "nature is like that" or "god/nature must be such and such". Take the concept of a creator out of your comments and you have said exactly nothing. You seem to be trying to impress me with your knowledge of what other people think. Is that because you don't? Or can't? I don't know what you mean by fellow deists either. What is that supposed to mean?

70 posted on 08/15/2003 4:50:00 AM PDT by TigersEye (Joe McCarthy was right ... so was PT Barnum!)
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To: XBob
Actually, yes, I do. I studied this problem of 'God', the universe, and a creator, and could not answer the questions:

1. If the universe had to have a creator, and that Creator was 'God', then who created the 'Creator'? And if 'he always was, and always shall be, then why could not the universe 'always be and always shall be'.

2. Where are we? - On earth, in the solar system, in the Milky Way Galaxy, in the Universe, and just where is the universe?

Yada, yada, yada. Blather, blather, blather ... What makes you think I give a rats ass what you think about 'God' or the Universe?

75 posted on 08/15/2003 6:47:24 AM PDT by TigersEye (40,000,000 Americans killed by abortion since Roe v. Wade)
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