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Jittery U.S. Soldiers Kill 6 Iraqis
Yahoo ^ | Aug 10th 2003 | SCHEHEREZADE FARAMARZI

Posted on 08/10/2003 8:37:25 PM PDT by CanadianFella

BAGHDAD, Iraq - The night air hung like a hot wet blanket over the north Baghdad suburb of Slaykh. At 9 p.m., an electrical transformer blew up, plunging the neighborhood into darkness.

American soldiers, apparently fearing a bomb attack, went on alert. Within 45 minutes, six Iraqis trying to get home before the 11 p.m. curfew were shot and killed by U.S. forces.

Anwaar Kawaz, 36, lost her husband and three of four children. "We kept shouting, 'We're a family! Don't shoot!' But no one listened. They kept shooting," she told The Associated Press. She's expecting another child this month.

When asked about Friday's shootings, Lt. Col. Guy Shields, coalition military spokesman, said, "Our checkpoints are usually marked and our soldiers are trained and disciplined. I will check on that. That is serious."

Confronted by daily guerrilla attacks that have claimed 56 American lives since May 1, U.S. troops are on edge. Iraqis complain that many innocent people have died at surprise U.S. checkpoints thrown up on dark streets shortly before the curfew. Drivers hurrying home say they don't see the soldiers or hear their orders to stop.

The Kawaz family left the home of Anwaar's parents on Bilal Habashi Street at 9:15 p.m. for the 10-minute drive home. They had traveled only a half-mile when they reached the intersection where they said the American bullets took their terrible toll.

A few yards in front of them, two soldiers standing near two Humvees were shooting at the family's white Volkswagen, she said. Two other soldiers near a Humvee to the right of the car also fired, she said.

Witnesses told the AP one of the soldiers fell to the ground screaming in pain, apparently a victim of friendly fire.

"They killed us. There was no signal. Nothing at all. We didn't see anything but armored cars," Anwaar said Sunday, two days after the confrontation.

"Our headlights were on. He (her husband) didn't have time to put his foot on the brake. They kept shooting. He was shot in the forehead. I was still sitting next to him. I got out of the car to get help. I was shouting, 'Help me! Help me!' No one came."

Witnesses said her husband, Adel Kawaz, survived for at least an hour, still sitting in the car after being hit in the head and back.

Ibrahim Arslan, whose house is on the corner where the Kawaz car came under fire, said Kawaz cried out for help.

Arslan said he and a neighbor tried to remove the wounded Kawaz from the car, but the door was jammed. Then they fled when automatic rifle fire again split the air.

"The next day we heard he had died," Arslan said.

Ali Taha, who lives across the street, said Haydar Kawaz, 18, was sitting up in the back of the car with a bullet wound in his head. His sister, 17-year-old Olaa, slumped dead into his arms.

When the shooting stopped and the American soldiers were gone, Taha said, he and other neighbors ventured out about 11 p.m. and took the bodies of the brother and sister from the car, placed them on the pavement and covered them with a sheet.

The Americans had taken the bodies of Adel, the husband, and another child, 8-year-old Mirvet. Two days later, the family still did not know where the bodies were taken.

A fourth child, a 13-year-old Hadeel, survived.

"I was sitting in the middle, between my brother Haydar and sister Olaa," Hadeel said, her head bandaged.

"I felt blood coming down my head. I tried to drag myself out of the car. An American pulled me out. I kept telling them that my father and my brother were in the car. There was a translator with them.

"My father was shouting, 'We are still alive!' but no went to help him.

"The Americans told me to go with them but I was afraid they would hurt me. I didn't trust them. So I ran to my grandparents' house," Hadeel said. She told the story sitting in her grandparents' home, crying quietly, surrounded by family.

Lt. Sean McLaughlin, stationed at a base near Slaykh, could only express sympathy, although he said his unit was not involved.

"No one feels worse than us. We want to build a safe Iraq (news - web sites) for the Iraqis. It's a difficult situation here," McLaughlin said.

A few blocks from where the car was shot up, 19-year-old Sayf Ali was shot and killed as he drove home with a cousin and a friend. He, too, didn't see the American checkpoint, survivors in the car said. Soldiers opened fire on the blue Opel station wagon, which kept moving after Ali was shot. The cousin and the friend jumped out. Soldiers kept firing until the car caught fire incinerating Ali's body, according to one of the witnesses, Arslan.

About the same time nearby, Ali Salman, 31, was driving home, also unaware of the unannounced American checkpoints. He apparently didn't see the soldiers either and was killed.

Ghaleb Laftah, 24, who was sitting in the back of Salman's Honda, and Wisam Sabri, sitting in the front passenger seat, were wounded.

"There was no light. We didn't see the Americans," said Laftah, limping from a leg injury as he walked to Salman's wake that was being held under a tent on Bilal Habashi Street.

"We didn't hurt anyone. We didn't break the law," Laftah said, speaking with difficulty because of four broken teeth from the shooting.

"My son, ... the Americans killed him," said Salman's father, Hikmat, who broke down in sobs. "He was on his way home and was caught up in the shooting. He was afraid, got out of the car and they still shot him. He was frightened, then he died. I only have one (son)," he said.

Family members were also holding a wake for Sayf Ali. The men sat under a tent outside the house and the women were indoors, according to Iraqi tradition.

Sabah Azawmi, an uncle and a Sunni Muslim, said his tribe would seek revenge on the Americans.

"They set fire to the car while he was inside," said Azawmi.

"They are terrified of the Iraqis. If they weren't afraid, they wouldn't behave this way," he said.

But Hikmat Salman, Ali Salman's father and a Shiite Muslim, said he was not interested in revenge. He said he would leave that to God.

The Kawaz family, also Shiites, also said they would leave revenge to God.

"I wish Saddam (Hussein) would return and kill all Americans," Anwaar Kawaz said. Under Saddam, "we used to go out at one in the morning. We went out at 9 now and they killed us.

"I want to drink Bush's blood. They are all criminals," she said, beating her chest.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: civiliancasualties; iraq
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To: MS.BEHAVIN
I've NEVER liked that photo. To me it's not borderline, but RIGHT THERE!!!......child abuse.

That boy is far too young to know and do that. There's NOTHING funny about it.
81 posted on 08/11/2003 12:05:43 AM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (fREE rEPUBLIC iS nOT aDDICTIVE, fREE rEPUBLIC iS nOT aDDICTIVE, fREE rEPUBLIC iS nOT aDDICTIVE, fREE)
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To: Brad's Gramma
No, it isn't funny, it's sick..

Ms.B
82 posted on 08/11/2003 12:07:21 AM PDT by MS.BEHAVIN ("Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds".Re-elect G.W.Bush)
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To: clamboat
You forgot Montag813 who blamed the shooting victims for not shouting "stop shooting, we are a family" in English. Real funny. Yeah- some pretty disgusting and disturbing posts on this thread.
83 posted on 08/11/2003 12:09:20 AM PDT by Burkeman1 ((If you see ten troubles comin down the road, Nine will run into the ditch before they reach you.))
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To: RIGHT IN SEATTLE; Brad's Gramma; ODC-GIRL; Fawnn; azGOPgal
Don't patronize me, alright?

That settled..

That photo is sick, that baby doesn't understand what he's doing.

If you're going to promote that sort of thing, do it somewhere else.

Don't read this post!

Don't respond to it!

YOU'RE up way to late!

Go to bed!

Idiot!

Ms.B
84 posted on 08/11/2003 12:22:20 AM PDT by MS.BEHAVIN ("Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds".Re-elect G.W.Bush)
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To: pierrem15
Bush is right that the terrorists are much more of a threat only with state-sponsorship and assistance...

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The terrorism is religiously sponsored and seen in a multitude of countries where Mohammedism is flexing its muscles. It is secondarily state sponsored by predominently Islamic governments.

85 posted on 08/11/2003 12:28:10 AM PDT by RLK
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To: pierrem15
I may be wrong but it seems to me when the guys crashed the airplanes into the buildings they shouted Allah Akbar, not viva la Saddam Hussein.
86 posted on 08/11/2003 12:45:34 AM PDT by RLK
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To: MS.BEHAVIN
I agree with you.
87 posted on 08/11/2003 1:01:11 AM PDT by Burkeman1 ((If you see ten troubles comin down the road, Nine will run into the ditch before they reach you.))
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To: Consort
It was a dark and stormy night...
88 posted on 08/11/2003 1:03:21 AM PDT by Atchafalaya (1)
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To: RLK
What makes Al Queda dangerous is that it is independent of any state sponsership and can exist with or without it. It is not even a tight group but really just a kind of a loose affiliation with hundreds of big sponsers (most private) and hundreds of thousands of small donors and supporters all spread out in dozens of nations. I think some people hope that there is some government we can blame for Al Queda. Some say the Saudi government are really the bad guys. That too is simplistic. It is much more complicated than that. It isn't a nest of James Bond type villians we are fighting in volcanoe hideouts- it is a cultural mentality. Thus I have my doubts- heck more than my doubts about our current course in Iraq and the region as a whole.
89 posted on 08/11/2003 1:13:16 AM PDT by Burkeman1 ((If you see ten troubles comin down the road, Nine will run into the ditch before they reach you.))
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To: MS.BEHAVIN
Sending prayers for "Popeye".
90 posted on 08/11/2003 2:48:15 AM PDT by skr (The liberals are only interested in seeking Weapons for Bush Destruction)
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To: RIGHT IN SEATTLE
Please don't post that child's picture.
91 posted on 08/11/2003 3:29:08 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: MS.BEHAVIN
Please tell your friend,Popeye, that we know his loss is immense and he has my gratitide for his son's service and sacrifice.We haven't forgotten and we are indebted to all who serve and sacrifice for our country. May God comfort those who mourn.May he bless Popeye.
92 posted on 08/11/2003 3:48:44 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: dwd1
I appreciate your post, well said.

Before I form an opinion on what happen, my sympathies are with the GI's...let a military investigation take place...Im not relying on the press.

For those condemning these soldiers...walk in their boots for a while.
93 posted on 08/11/2003 4:06:18 AM PDT by mystery-ak (The War is not over for me until my hubby's boots hit U.S. soil.)
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To: CanadianFella
Agenda or no, six Iraqis are still dead, and the natives are restless.

Still dead? So you want us to bring them back from the dead?

Six Iraqis dead and natives restless or not, do you have an agenda?

94 posted on 08/11/2003 5:07:41 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: montag813
A little tip for ya: Try shouting it in English next time.

Or we could simply inform our troops that targeting civilians is something we would expect of terrorists, not from soldiers who are "trained and disciplined."

95 posted on 08/11/2003 5:43:24 AM PDT by sheltonmac
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To: Consort
The night was moist...
96 posted on 08/11/2003 5:46:09 AM PDT by New Horizon
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To: Burkeman1
Here's the reality from another thread here:

In a message sent from his jail cell, the Indonesian cleric believed to lead the militant Jemaah Islamiah group urged Muslims on August 10, 2003 to adhere to their faith without fear of being labeled 'terrorists.' The fiery address from Abu Bakar Bashir came as officials at a school he set up confirmed that a man identified by police as the suicide bomber who triggered last week's huge blast at Jakarta's JW Marriott Hotel was one of their pupils.

97 posted on 08/11/2003 7:32:46 AM PDT by RLK
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To: Eagle Eye
I am not a gambling man, but if I were, I would like to see you win that bet...

With all my heart, I hope you are right...
98 posted on 08/11/2003 8:04:57 AM PDT by dwd1 (M. h. D. (Master of Hate and Discontent))
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To: MS.BEHAVIN
Please tell you friend he is in my prayers and that I am sorry for his loss...
99 posted on 08/11/2003 8:09:11 AM PDT by dwd1 (M. h. D. (Master of Hate and Discontent))
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To: Burkeman1
I have to give you that one...

There is a great amount of speculation as to whether the Saudis are happy with the instability....Demand for their product stays up...They are not having their infrastructure threatened... They are tolerated because they serve the national interests of many nations...

You have something there...
100 posted on 08/11/2003 8:18:02 AM PDT by dwd1 (M. h. D. (Master of Hate and Discontent))
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