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To: BlackElk
This is particularly true, Deacon, with the Vatican's no nonsense orders on fudgepacker "marriage" and fudgepacker adoption of last week, which is the everlasting policy of our Church. Don't you agree?

If I didn't know better, it would appear that you're trying to shut me up.

Is that what you're reduced to? If you can't convince people to your side, you try to coerce them with an edict of the Church?

Please tell me you're not this desperate.

98 posted on 08/11/2003 1:12:25 PM PDT by sinkspur (Get a dog! He'll change your life!)
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To: sinkspur
I lost a more eloquent response in my capacity as old fumblefingers. Since I am pressed this one will have to do.

I am not trying to shut you up. I am calling upon you to speak courageously in your capacity as a Catholic deacon. I do not do this out of disrespect. You have vows and obligations and I do not think I should refrain from pointing that out to you any more than I would refrain from doing the same with the deacon in my parish or with my pastor. You are part of the Catholic family and so am I.

I recently referred a deeply troubled Catholic woman to you and to a more conservative deacon simultaneously with the suggestion that her problems were beyond my limited abilities and in my judgment she needed to hear two Catholic views represented by you and the other deacon, that two heads are better than one and that such problems ought be handled privately and not in the glare of the internet and by competent clergy. I do not make such references out of disrespect nor do I make them, obviously, because of complete agreement with you on all things Catholic.

Secondly, on the post to which you responded and on this one, I did not summon the posse.

Thirdly, despite obvious differences, we probably agree on more than we often admit. Who would have imagined a reasonable agreement on liturgy that both Tridentine and Novus Ordo should be available?

Fourth, I do not, for the life of me understand why you persist in this support of "civil rights" for homosexuals as such or in supporting their political and judicial supporters or how this squares with Catholic doctrine particularly after this recent document from Ratzinger.

I have written publicly since I am responding to your post and I do not want others to misunderstand this situation.

106 posted on 08/11/2003 4:02:59 PM PDT by BlackElk ( It is always a good day to hunt RINOs and CINOs like rented mules!)
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