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US admits it used napalm bombs in Iraq
The Independent on Sunday (U.K.) ^ | 08/10/03 | Andrew Buncombe

Posted on 08/09/2003 1:08:58 PM PDT by Pokey78

Edited on 11/10/2004 4:21:39 PM PST by Jim Robinson. [history]

American pilots dropped the controversial incendiary agent napalm on Iraqi troops during the advance on Baghdad. The attacks caused massive fireballs that obliterated several Iraqi positions.

The Pentagon denied using napalm at the time, but Marine pilots and their commanders have confirmed that they used an upgraded version of the weapon against dug-in positions. They said napalm, which has a distinctive smell, was used because of its psychological effect on an enemy.


(Excerpt) Read more at news.independent.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aftermathanalysis; cool; deadiraqisoldiers; iraq; iraqifreedom; napalm
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To: colorado tanker
hypocrites

Yep!

21 posted on 08/09/2003 1:41:53 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Pray for our Troops)
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To: A Navy Vet; snippy_about_it
Naplam - Better Living Through Chemistry.
22 posted on 08/09/2003 1:42:27 PM PDT by SAMWolf (Behind every argument is someone's ignorance.)
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To: Pokey78
A 1980 UN convention banned the use against civilian targets of napalm, a terrifying mixture of jet fuel and polystyrene that sticks to skin as it burns.

All of the targets are military ... what are they whining about ?

We play to win.

23 posted on 08/09/2003 1:44:19 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (We are crushing our enemies, seeing him driven before us and hearing the lamentations of the liberal)
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To: Threepwood
How is napalm worse than a bomb full of ordinary explosive? I wasn't aware there was a controversy over its use.

There's alot of controversey over it. Its some pretty scary stuff. Akin to flaming jello or something. You see guys burning, the wounds and injury's are frightening. You want to win a psy war, use this stuff. I personally condone the use of napalm, its power and effect is awesome.

The fireballs that this stuff produces, and the way it looks, make it something seperate from an ordinary exposive, the iraqi's probably lost bladder control when they say this stuff.

24 posted on 08/09/2003 1:46:07 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: SAMWolf
We still have any of these in the inventory?

If not, we should re-procure them...I like to make the libs crazy.

25 posted on 08/09/2003 1:48:38 PM PDT by demlosers (Come out of the shadows)
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To: Pokey78
Good. I'm glad that this is out. It gives adequate notice to those that would harm America. When we say "shock and awe," WE MEAN IT.
26 posted on 08/09/2003 1:48:42 PM PDT by RedWhiteBlue
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To: demlosers
Give 'em the hotfoot, boys!
27 posted on 08/09/2003 1:50:12 PM PDT by colorado tanker (Iron Horse)
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To: Threepwood
How is napalm worse than a bomb full of ordinary explosive? I wasn't aware there was a controversy over its use.

Oh yes there is. To the lefty democrats and press such as the New York Times, using napalm is 1000 times worse than the "benign" Khmer Rouge Pol Pot regime which slaughtered millions in the late 70's.

Don't you know that napalm was developed by that evil American Imperialist corporation called Dow Chemical.

28 posted on 08/09/2003 1:51:59 PM PDT by Dane
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To: All
Why are we using naplam when FAE's are so much better?

bttt!

29 posted on 08/09/2003 1:53:08 PM PDT by risk
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To: Sonny M
I don't know what I think about this. The object *is* (as always)to kill people and clear them off things, so in that respect efficency is always a perk. If Americans had died because of a decision not to use this weapon, their commanders would have been negligent.

On the other hand, Chemical agents would have emptied this bridge even faster, but we didn't do that. Obviously then, there must be a point where efficency in killing intersects with morality. Where that is, and whether napalm is on the wrong side of that point is a decision I'm glad I don't have to make or be accountable for.
30 posted on 08/09/2003 1:53:15 PM PDT by Threepwood
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To: demlosers
I'm not sure if flamethrowers are still being used.
31 posted on 08/09/2003 1:53:50 PM PDT by SAMWolf (Behind every argument is someone's ignorance.)
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To: Dane
I've noticed that. "Napalm" the substance seems to be regarded with a odd brand of reverant horror by a certain kind of leftist. I guess the leading role the old communist bloc countries took in bio-weapon design doesn't have quite the same zing.
32 posted on 08/09/2003 1:55:16 PM PDT by Threepwood
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To: Pokey78; snippy_about_it

It sort of looks like this when naplam is ignighted.

33 posted on 08/09/2003 1:58:59 PM PDT by SAMWolf (Behind every argument is someone's ignorance.)
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To: SAMWolf
ignighted = ignited
34 posted on 08/09/2003 1:59:49 PM PDT by SAMWolf (Behind every argument is someone's ignorance.)
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To: Threepwood
I've noticed that. "Napalm" the substance seems to be regarded with a odd brand of reverant horror by a certain kind of leftist.

Yep, mention that napalm is a good weapon against evil forces at a NYT editorial meeting, and the "verbal napalm" you will get back at you would make Hillary proud, IMO.

To the likes of the NYT and Hillary. America is evil and always will be.

35 posted on 08/09/2003 2:00:37 PM PDT by Dane
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To: Pokey78
Robert Musil, director of the organisation Physicians for Social Responsibility

It doesn't matter what hardline, anti-US leftists like Musil say. If it wasn't napalm, he'd be criticizing something else about America.

For him, the real problem is the existence of America itself. Ultimately, Musil's kind can only be satisfied by a broken America full of Mao-suited peasants, toiling on collectivized farms and cringing in fear of a jackbooted UN occupation force.

36 posted on 08/09/2003 2:01:33 PM PDT by hayfried
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To: Pokey78

37 posted on 08/09/2003 2:01:45 PM PDT by SAMWolf (Behind every argument is someone's ignorance.)
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To: Pokey78
It's not napalm. It's a new eco-friendly mixture. Think of it as "Green Napalm"!

"I love the smell of green napalm in the morning. It smells like... nature."

38 posted on 08/09/2003 2:03:20 PM PDT by Redcloak (All work and no FReep makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no FReep make s Jack a dul boy. Allwork an)
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To: SAMWolf
That's a good reminder, thanks SAM.


39 posted on 08/09/2003 2:04:56 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Pray for our Troops)
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To: Pokey78
MK77 750lb Napalm
MK78 500lb Napalm
MK79 1000lb Napalm
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A fire bomb is a thin skinned container of fuel gel designed for use against dug-in troops, supply installations, wooden structures, and land convoys. Fire bombs rupture on impact and spread burning fuel gel on surrounding objects. MK 13 Mod 0 igniters are used to ignite the fuel gel mixture upon impact. The Mk-77 is the only fire bomb still in service, replacing the BLU-27.

While the MK-77 is the only incendiary munition currently in active inventory, a variety of other incendiary devices were produced, including the M-47 Napalm bomb, the M-74 incendiary bomb, and white phosphorous and munitions manufacturing. Production of these devices continued during the Korean conflict, though various demilitarization and decontamination programs were initiated in the late 1950s. Munitions destroyed included M-47 Napalm-filled bombs and incendiary cluster bombs.

The containers of napalm bomber are very light and fabricated of aluminum, with a capacity for about 75 gallons of combustible gel. They lack stabilizing fins, and consequently acquire a tumbling motion on being dropped that contributes to the scattering of the combustible gel over a wide area.

Napalm is a mixture of benzene (21%), gasoline (33%), and polystyrene (46%). Benzene is a normal component of gasoline (about 2%). The gasoline used in napalm is the same leaded or unleaded gas that is used in automobiles. Gasoline is a mixture of hydrocarbons, which burn in an engine. It is a clear liquid, made from crude oil that burns and explodes easily. It naturally contains some benzene (which makes gas smell the way it does).

Gasoline is lighter than, and floats on, water, but it will not mix with water. It dissolves grease and oil but will not dissolve polystyrene by itself, more benzene must be added to it. If gasoline is inhaled or swallowed, it can be dangerous or fatal. Breathing it results in an intense burning sensation in the throat and lungs, resulting in bronchitis and, eventually, pneumonia and possibly death. Swallowing gasoline results in inebriation (drunkenness), vomiting, dizziness, fever, drowsiness, confusion, and cyanosis (blue color)... excerpt from globalsecurity.org: Incendiary

40 posted on 08/09/2003 2:07:44 PM PDT by demlosers (ex-ammo)
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