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To: george wythe
Vigilantes must face the music, since we live in a republic not an anarchy.

No, we no longer live in a republic, we live in a government approved, open border "free for all", one that caters and panders to criminals, while failing to represent the legal citizens, and failing to do it's constitutional duty and protect our borders and sovereignty.

A true republic would never allow it's country to be taken over by millions that are literally choking off our system, while President Bush and the Republican's and Democrats, sit by winking and nodding at this open attack on our borders and sovereignty.

Do you not understand what is happening?

51 posted on 08/09/2003 2:07:16 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (1)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
I am as frustrated as you are about the lack of security in our borders.

I remember from my college days that this problem is not new.

Mexicans were crossing into the US without papers since the beginning of our mutual border. Checkpoints were not introduced in the US-Mexican border until the 1920s, IIRC.

Furthermore, Mexican nationals were excluded from immigration quotas in the Immigration Restriction Act of 1924, meaning that while European countries could send only so many immigrants, Mexicans had unlimited access to US visas.

In the 1940s through the 1960s, we had the guest worker programs, and even the Mexican government tried unsuccessfully to pressure Congress to punish American employers using illegal Mexican laborers (non guest workers) to no avail. (The Mexican government thought that legal guest workers were better paid than illegal workers)

Now we’re back at square one. We have a demand for Mexican labor, US employers do not get punished for using illegal workers, and history repeats itself.

We certainly need to take control of our borders, but using border enforcement as the only mechanism seems inadequate. We need to have a comprehensive immigration overhaul, and the business community needs to be part of the solution.

55 posted on 08/09/2003 2:21:24 PM PDT by george wythe
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To: Joe Hadenuf
The problem is that a concentrated group of people get large benefits from cheap illegal labor and a diffuse group of people pay for the burdens of it. Whenever that phenomonenon occurs, it is very hard to get government to move. All the people who donate and agitate are naturally going to be on the beneficiary side.

With illegals from Mexico, though, the basic flumoxing factor is that the people who are MOST hurt by it -- blacks, organized labor -- are people who are too tied up in their race-baiting ideology to act in their own self interests. That makes it even harder to overcome the basic inertia.
64 posted on 08/09/2003 2:31:39 PM PDT by only1percent
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To: Joe Hadenuf
"She said they were headed to New York, where they planned to live with family members, get a job and put their children into public school.
Ocampo did promise to return when it came time to testify, though, saying she wants to make sure Hoffman and Dumas are punished.
"What they did was wrong," she said. "

It is this attitude that is pushing so many Americans to the border in defense. The Illegal population believes they have a RIGHT to be here. Clearly something needs to happen so they are too afraid to sneak in. It's the only way to force them through proper ports of entry.

70 posted on 08/09/2003 2:39:19 PM PDT by moehoward
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