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1 posted on 08/09/2003 12:28:10 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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2 posted on 08/09/2003 12:29:18 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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They're fleeing, but they're taking their stupidity with them. Everywhere they go Liberal policies follow. Don't they realize they're responsible for the mess?
3 posted on 08/09/2003 12:30:34 AM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING
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bttt
4 posted on 08/09/2003 12:32:45 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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Yep, we're fleeing...but those I know who have been fleeing are neither Liberal nor Moderate, but are Conservatives. They're relocating to Texas, Arizona, and similar states.

Just talked with my in-laws this evening and it turns out they're ready to bail on this state as well.

You know things have seriously tanked when a retired Marine (my father-in-law) makes the call to bug out.
6 posted on 08/09/2003 1:14:55 AM PDT by Jay D. Dyson (Steamroll the RINOs -- Vote for Tom McClintock! -- http://www.tommcclintock.com/)
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Kalifornia: Another example of Socialism's failure. It's too bad that I and others have such a corrupt view of the state which I am sure is populated by many fine people. ...truth is, the loonies 'running' CA were elected. It should be fairly ituitive that a representative who grew up as a member of a deprived minority, would bring an attitude of entitlement with him/her, especially if they came from a socialist country, which Mexico is.

In addition to fiscal irresponsibility, there is the ever present stench of corruption. (Every time I hear Davis or the Mayor of SF open their mouths I could vomit.) Couple all this with hyper-progressive cultural policies, (note the sneering contempt for the U.S Constitution,) and you will find many Americans wanting out. So you can rationalize all you want to, but the overiding issues for the folks leaving are fiscal and cultural.

I only hope other states will learn from California the results of thumbing your nose at the indigineous population and requiring them to bend over on a regular basis. New York may be learning the same lesson the hard way.

8 posted on 08/09/2003 1:32:05 AM PDT by Banjoguy (To our citizen and volunteer military: Thanks for all you've done...)
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"It's no accident that three of the leading contenders for governor speak English as a second language."

Who's the third one?

10 posted on 08/09/2003 2:25:38 AM PDT by Neanderthal
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Looks like Bush-Clinton-Bush open border immigration practices are paying off handsomely.
14 posted on 08/09/2003 2:58:38 AM PDT by dagnabbit (Shielding Guilty Saudis = Accessory After the Fact.)
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CA to ME in95
15 posted on 08/09/2003 5:40:25 AM PDT by larryjohnson (FReepersonaltrainer)
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Now many of those who helped build the miracle are leaving.

Businesses? They're fleeing, too.

As a result, not enough jobs are being created — and not enough homes are being built. In just the last two years, the state has lost 14% of its factory jobs, while its population has surged 1.6 million.

So, if people and businesses are leaving where is the population surge coming from?
Are the remaining people breeding like rabbits OR are illegals swarming across the border, hmmmmmm?

California's fiscal problems aren't going to be solved by changing governors but by sealing the southern border.

16 posted on 08/09/2003 5:55:53 AM PDT by varon
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I loved California. I moved there, took a good look, and ran like hell in the opposite direction. I was also politically indifferent. After a good look at California, I became an impassioned anti-"Liberal".
17 posted on 08/09/2003 6:02:49 AM PDT by Savage Beast (The American Heartland--the Spirit of Flight 93)
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For Californians, the recent report from the Census Bureau was a shocker. From 1990 to 2000, the Census found, the number of Californians leaving the state was greater than the number of those arriving from other states — a first.

Even during the high-tech boom, people left. From 1995 to 2000, 1.4 million Americans moved to California. But 2.2 million left.

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As a result, not enough jobs are being created — and not enough homes are being built. In just the last two years, the state has lost 14% of its factory jobs, while its population has surged 1.6 million.

The state needs more than 200,000 housing units a year just to keep up with population growth. In recent years it's been lucky to get even half of that, thanks to local "growth controls" and run-amok NIMBYism that have helped home prices soar out of reach.

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As for immigrants, California still has plenty of them — from outside the U.S. (It's no accident that three of the leading contenders for governor speak English as a second language.)

Well, which is it??? Shrinking population or surging population?

It's no wonder journalists have such a reputation as poor writers. They couldn't quite bring together that the mass exodus of talent and business was being replaced by a smaller flood of unemployed, unskilled labor.

Next, it will be spun that selfish businesses and the families that ran them created a pile a problems and fled-- dumping the mess in the laps of the poor. You watch.

18 posted on 08/09/2003 6:07:34 AM PDT by BradyLS
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21 posted on 08/09/2003 6:22:43 AM PDT by autoresponder (PETA TERRORISTS .wav file: BRUCE FRIEDRICH: http://tinyurl.com/hjhd)
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Californian immigrants changed Austin from weird to "Starbucks Chic."
24 posted on 08/09/2003 7:13:59 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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Even during the high-tech boom, people left. From 1995 to 2000, 1.4 million Americans moved to California. But 2.2 million left.

ONLY 2.2 million? Jeez, a third of those must currently be in Las Vegas...Californians taking their money and running for the border. The state seems to be turning more conservative because of this trend, but the taxes appear to be following them over from the west.
37 posted on 08/09/2003 9:23:02 AM PDT by Fausto
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Seen the gay movie SWAT last night and since I can remember the original series all I can say is that LA totally looks like crap compared to what it looked like in the seventies TV dramas.
38 posted on 08/09/2003 9:30:23 AM PDT by junta (Xenophobia a perfectly reasonable response to the feckless stupidity of globalism.)
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Why? Riots, earthquakes and a steep recession early in the 1990s left many fed up.

Riots and earthquakes are causing people to leave? What a pile of horseshit. They're leaving because of CONFISCATORY TAXES, high cost of living due to CONFISCATORY TAXES, the deluge of illegals who have access to government handouts that result in CONFISCATORY TAXES, and a stupid legislature and governor that can do nothing but create more CONFISCATORY TAXES.

43 posted on 08/09/2003 10:16:06 AM PDT by Lizavetta
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After 48 1/2 years I left in '99. Haven't looked back!

So, how much to register a 2003 'Hummer' now?

51 posted on 08/09/2003 12:10:41 PM PDT by rockfish59
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Funny, you ask any realtor in Southern Cal and most all will tell you, the existing inventory of homes for sale is very low. Hardly anyone is selling. And when they do, the home is sold sometimes in less than a week. LOL.....
55 posted on 08/09/2003 4:45:09 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (1)
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During the CA energy crisis a couple of years ago, we predicted that the liberal policies were going to drive people and business away.

Looks like we were right.

57 posted on 08/09/2003 4:55:10 PM PDT by Jorge
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Businesses? They're fleeing, too. Facing onerous environmental rules in places like Los Angeles and San Francisco, they can't grow. In a recent small-business survey, more than half said they've stopped hiring and expanding, due to soaring workers' comp costs.

The Investors Business Daily had an article followed the next day by a commentary on the skyrocketing costs of just Worker's Compensation.

Mitchell Grief, owner of a plastic bag making company "Coast Converters", has 150 employees. In 2001, he paid $225,000 for Workers' Comp. In 2002, it rose to $330,000. This year it is $570,000. By staying in LA he will pay $700,000, over $4500 per employee just for worker's compensation. He has moved out of California, and 2/3rds of his employees followed him.

Just think about that. $4500 per employee just for worker's compensation. Then add $1500 in FICA and Medicare tax, then Unemployment Tax and other outright seizures and theft by government. The US worker already has $5/hr disadvantage over his illegal alien or overseas competitor. The US factory laborer needs to add at least $5/hr more value than the illegal alien before he or she is even considered to be of equal value in the eyes of the employer.

Our government is our enemy. These wicked and depraved souless beings in our capitol buildings are actively seeking ways to destroy us and destroy the US economy. Calfornia is just the most obnoxious and obvious about their utter contempt and hatred for America.

We are close approaching the point where we need to realize that the Arnold's Circus Act is just a sideshow to captivate the masses and we really need to utilize our 2nd Amendment Rights.

64 posted on 08/10/2003 6:08:30 AM PDT by Dr Warmoose
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