Why African-American boys often fail in school

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | 8/8/03 | ERNEST HOLSENDOLPH

[alrea]

If we start now it will take a generation or two to heal. A very sad state of affairs but it does have one great advantage: It secures 95% of the black vote for the Dems. Hard to beat that.

you're wrong here. it's more like 97%.

[Jim Noble]

Joslyn Elders made the statement that over 90% of those in prison come from single parent homes

Typical Clintonian euphemism.

Children from single-father homes present no hazard to society, or themselves.

It is single-mother custody of minor children that is the cancer eating away at society.

[Lonesome in Massachussets]

University of Georgia
White students 76%
Black students 67%
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Total students 143%

Either "White Students" and "Black Students" are not disjoint sets, or someone's swimming in the shallow end of the gene pool.

[P.O.E.]

The word "build" seems to be missing from the mindset.

[Jim Noble]

There's nothing wrong with a vocational education if you approach it with the right vision

There's nothing wrong with it any way you slice it.

What's wrong is making IQ 90 kids take algebra, geometry, and trig, and then telling them they are dumb if they don't get it.

We are putting 95% of the kids into a program designed for the top 30% (at most), and when they fail, we blame the teachers.

My grandmother taught in NYC Public for 50 years. Her two favorite sayings were, "You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear", and "Someone is going to have to clean the subways (when they grow up)".

The people running the schools would do well to listen to her wisdom.

[ArcLight]

Yeah, my nephews told me about them. They called them "spreewheels." We were driving through Chicago and they pointed them out to me on a passing Mustang. Goofiest looking things you ever saw. Harmless, to be sure, but you'd have to be deranged to blow even a few hundred bucks on something that silly, much less seven K.

[ArcLight]

Yeah, my nephews told me about them. They called them "spreewheels." We were driving through Chicago and they pointed them out to me on a passing Mustang. Goofiest looking things you ever saw. Harmless, to be sure, but you'd have to be deranged to blow even a few hundred bucks on something that silly, much less seven K.

[rdb3]

Please explain your "elephant" in no uncertain terms.

[ArcLight]

Turns out these wheels were invented by a Rhode Island firm. Here's more info.

[Kevin Curry]

As long as the young black male culture is one where the pantheon of heroes is headed by gutter-indulgents such as Snoop Dog, and Clarence Thomas is sneered at, there can be no hope of meaningful advancement.

[WhiteGuy]

The pathetic rotting of the government schools in the nation will continue until there is widespread complete shutdown.

This condition will not change until the schools stop focusing on particular groups like "african american boys" and instead concentrate on 'students".

[Yeti]

"Young black males can just look at a teacher, especially the white female teachers, and sense fear and distrust," Castenell said. "That leads to a situation where teachers distance themselves from youngsters who make them uneasy, and select only the best-behaved and most compliant students as favorites -- and regarding the others as deviant." Only training can help teachers improve those relationships, he says.

LOL! Always...

So the solution to black male academic problems is for white b!tches to make a big deal in class about how they just LOVE black males! And "train" them to do that...

I heard something like this when Drudge guest-hosted an LA radio show not long ago. Social distortion is just the answer to everything, isn't it?

[independentmind]

The article also assumes that intelligence should be held as the supreme virtue in society. What about honor, integrity and sacrifice? Do kids today ever even hear about these things?

[Jim Noble]

The article also assumes that intelligence should be held as the supreme virtue in society

This is a very, very common fallacy, intelligent=good.

FALSE, FALSE, FALSE.

What about Trustworthy, Loyal, Helpful, Friendly, Courteous, Kind, Obedient, Cheerful, Thrifty, Brave, Clean, and Reverent?

[WhyisaTexasgirlinPA]

We tell our kids that school is their job right now....... we have jobs and are expected to perform at a certain level, and we expect them to do the same. Our daughter has to work hard but gets excellent grades; our son struggles in a few areas but we work with him at home at night - that is the downfall for some kids, the parents who feel they don't need to help or who don't want to spend the time. Some kids just need a little extra help and they grasp the concept - I feel sorry for kids who don't have the support at home - and don't think it isn't happening in homes of all races and income levels -

[visualops]

Beyond IQ are questions of aptitude and talents, ambition and drive.
There was a time when learning a trade was respected.
A college level education is great, but it need not necessarily follow directly after high school, and it isn't necessarily for everyone. Kids should be made aware there are many courses their lives can take. There's no reason that high schools can't have various literature available in the classrooms and libraries that kids can look at when they want to. It used to be guidance counselors helped in that area, but nowadays they seem more concerned with political correctness, pretending to be psychologists and pushing paper than helping students.
IQ is also not a measure of how well kids will do in various environments. My high-IQ brother did very poorly until put in a very competitive all-boys school. My low-normal IQ son is a straight-A student who won the Presidential academic award this past school year because we maintain discipline and he works hard.

[brityank]

Total students 143%

Either "White Students" and "Black Students" are not disjoint sets, or someone's swimming in the shallow end of the gene pool.

Of students who entered Georgia colleges in 1996, here is the percentage of white and black students who graduated by 2002.

[gitmo]

It means more to them than two girls? That's even worse!

[SoftballMominVA]

I taught a reasonably bright African-American boy last year; he did no homework--ever--but would manage to pass tests and quizzes with C's and D's. When asked to do group work, he did okay, sometimes participating, sometimes not. Overall, he earned a 71 in my English class. This pattern was true in all of his core classes.

His core teachers sent home numerous requests for conferences and we each called (and left messages) 3-5 times each.

The mom and dad finally decided to come in for a conference in April when they received a retention notice. They were both professionally dressed and obviously well educated. They were totally unconcerned with his grades of D's in English, reading and history, and F's in Math and Science. They were very concerned about our request to retain him because "that would totally derail his career in the NBA." The mother threatened to sue the school if he was not promoted and called us "racist white bitches" for imposing our "false Euro-Centric ideals" on her boy and that "school is just a vehicle to get him to his professional career in the NBA."

Of course the school promoted him to 7th.

[brityank]

Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan had this all figured out decades ago; the welfare entitlement system will cause these results. Unfortunately, he was also a true demoncrat, and was roundly castigated for his views.