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Father of dead soldier claims Army coverup
UPI ^ | 8/7/2003 6:13 PM | Mark Benjamin Investigations Editor

Posted on 08/08/2003 3:36:31 PM PDT by demlosers

WASHINGTON, Aug. 7 (UPI) -- The father of a soldier who died of pneumonia this spring said Thursday the Army has excluded her death from its investigation of deadly pneumonia because it wants to cover up vaccine side effects.

"The government is covering this up and it is a dog-gone shame," said Moses Lacy, whose daughter, Army Spc. Rachael Lacy, died April 4 at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minn., after getting pneumonia.

Lacy said his daughter "was a healthy young woman" but got ill within days of getting anthrax and smallpox vaccinations on March 2 in preparation for deployment to the Persian Gulf. She was too ill to ever be deployed.

The Army said 100 soldiers have gotten pneumonia in Iraq and southwestern Asia, two of those have died and another 13 have had to be put on respirators.

"The common denominator is smallpox and anthrax vaccinations," Moses Lacy said in a telephone interview from his home in Lynwood, Ill. "These young people have given their lives to the military and they are getting a raw deal. The Department of Defense is closing their eyes."

The Army did not mention vaccines on Tuesday when it held a press conference on the pneumonia investigation. Officials said the pneumonia does not appear to be contagious, and are close to ruling out biological or chemical warfare, SARS and Legionnaire's disease.

Col. Robert DeFraites of the Army Surgeon General's office said at the press conference that the Pentagon launched the investigation because of the severity of the pneumonia. "Are we seeing more cases in general than we might expect? Despite the harsh environment, the answer is no ... But again, we are still concerned about these severe ones."

DeFraites told UPI on Wednesday that the Pentagon would look into whether vaccines, among other factors, might have triggered the pneumonia cases. "Among all of the possible causes or contributing factors, we are looking at the immunizations that the soldiers received as well," DeFraites said. "It is premature to say that there is any relationship at all."

The Army said it is excluding Lacy's death from its investigation because Lacy never made it to Iraq or southwestern Asia where it says the cases are clustered. "She was never deployed to Iraq," Army Surgeon General spokeswoman Virginia Stephanakis told UPI Thursday. She said the military is participating in an investigation of Lacy's death separate from the pneumonia investigation. "It is a whole different issue."

Moses Lacy disagreed.

"She should be on that list (of deaths to investigate) because my daughter's first symptoms were pneumonia," Lacy said. "It happened immediately" after the vaccines, Moses said. "You don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure it out. If I were a medical official it would be the first thing I would look into."

Steve Robinson, executive director of the National Gulf War Resource Center, told UPI, "We should include in this study any illnesses or deaths that appear to be pneumonia-related that occurred in theater or out of theater."

Dr. Eric Pfeifer, the Minnesota coroner who performed Lacy's autopsy, told the Army Times that the smallpox and anthrax vaccines "may have" contributed to Lacy's death. "It's just very suspicious in my mind...that she's healthy, gets the vaccinations and then dies a couple weeks later." He listed "post-vaccine" problems on the death certificate.

Other members of the armed forces not in the Pentagon investigation say the anthrax vaccine has made them very sick with pneumonia-like symptoms. Michael Girard, a Senior Airman at Patrick Air Force Base in Cocoa Beach, Fla., got his second anthrax shot on March 4. He developed flu-like symptoms - runny nose and a "heavy chest" - starting March 6 and by March 12 developed a rash on his left arm where he had gotten the shot.

"Then basically it started attacking my body, section by section," Girard said. He said he has since suffered bouts of vomiting up blood, pain in his feet that made them turn blue, chest pain, constipation, pain in his legs, headaches, stomach aches and extremely high blood pressure. In one weekend he went to the emergency room four times. He says he suffers from insomnia and fatigue.

At one point, he developed a horrible cough. "They did do a chest X-ray because they thought it might be pneumonia. A nurse told me that it was, but a doctor came in and said that it was not."

Girard said Air Force doctors first suspected the anthrax vaccine caused his problems, but since have backed away from that diagnosis. "Everything that has been associated with this ever since I got sick has been like a coverup," Girard said. He said he "was perfectly 100 percent healthy" before getting the vaccine. "I was in the gym for an hour to two hours per day. I was running. I was energetic."

He said he was not scheduled to deploy anywhere.

In its pneumonia investigation, the Army is looking into the July 12 death of Army Spc. Joshua M. Neusche, 20, of Montreal, Mo. The Pentagon has described his death as "other causes." The Army is also looking at the June 17 death of Army Sgt. Michael L. Tosto, 24, of Apex, N.C. His death is listed as "illness."

Stephanakis said she was unfamiliar with the June 26 death in Kuwait of another soldier, Army Spc. Cory A. Hubbell, 20, of Urbana, Ill. His death is listed by the Pentagon under "breathing difficulties." Hubbell's mother, Connie Bickers, of Urbana, Ill., told the Champaign News-Gazette that the Army had not told her how her apparently healthy son died. "I wish I had answers, but I don't know if I'm ever going to get them," Bickers told the paper.

On Thursday, the Pentagon announced the death of Sgt. David L. Loyd, 44, of Jackson, Tenn. The announcement said Lloyd died on Aug. 5 when he "was on a mission when he experienced severe chest pains. The soldier was sent to the Kuwait hospital where he was pronounced dead."

A co-author of a government-sponsored study of possible side effects from the anthrax vaccine told UPI that the Army should look at whether that vaccine is behind the cluster of pneumonia cases. That study last year found the vaccine was the "possible or probable" cause of pneumonia in two soldiers.

"As physicians, I would think they would be looking at all possible causes. I would think vaccines would be part of that," said Dr. John L. Sever of George Washington University Medical School, who was one of six authors of the study.

Last year's anthrax vaccine study, printed in the May 2002 issue of Pharmacoepidemiology and Drug Safety, found that the vaccine was the "possible or probable" cause of pneumonia among two soldiers, according to Sever. The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services convened the group, called the Anthrax Vaccine Expert Committee, which studied 602 reports of possible reactions to the vaccine among nearly 400,000 troops who received it, Sever said.

In addition to identifying pneumonia and flu-like symptoms among troops who received the vaccine, the group also looked at four other cases of potentially serious reactions, including severe back pain and two soldiers who had sudden difficulty breathing in a possible allergic reaction to the vaccine.

Sever described the two cases of pneumonia as "wheezing and difficulty breathing going into a pneumonia-like picture."

To conduct the study, the Anthrax Vaccine Expert Committee examined reports from the U.S. military to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention; they are anecdotal reports and do not necessarily show a cause-and-effect relationship.

Moses Lacy said he believes the real story is about vaccine side effects. "Unless somebody breaks this story wide open, we are going to have a lot more deaths. I am afraid we are going to lose a lot because of this vaccine."


TOPICS: Anthrax Scare; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anthraxvaccine; fatalities; iraq; mysteryillness; pneumonia
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1 posted on 08/08/2003 3:36:32 PM PDT by demlosers
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To: blam; aristeides; Judith Anne
Possible anthrax/smallpox vaccine connection with pneumonia cases.
2 posted on 08/08/2003 4:01:44 PM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: Domestic Church
I wonder if there is a genetic element to these vaccines?
3 posted on 08/08/2003 4:14:06 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
There was also a small item on a news site yesterday that a soldier had died of a "seizure" in Iraq.

I have never believed in multi-vaccinations - big hits against a number of diseases - I think that is risky.
4 posted on 08/08/2003 4:16:40 PM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: demlosers
Because she's one of ours, this Dad is right.

They should look at the link with the vaccinations. Perhaps anthrax and smallpox in tandem overwhelm the body's defenses in some crucial way that makes other problems possible.

So far as I know, they've never been done together in some kind of time proximity.

We owe it to the dad and to the memory of this soldier and for the benefit of other soldiers.

5 posted on 08/08/2003 4:23:17 PM PDT by xzins
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To: Domestic Church
Could a bad reaction to anthrax vaccine create the symptoms of anthrax poisoning?
6 posted on 08/08/2003 4:29:39 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: blam
Do you mean a sensitivity due to population genetics?
7 posted on 08/08/2003 4:36:50 PM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: demlosers
Doctors have already said that their will be a small percentage of people who will get sick or die from these vaccinations, just as there are a few babies who react to normal childhood vaccinations. It is very sad for this family, but I can't term this a cover-up.
8 posted on 08/08/2003 4:41:20 PM PDT by Libertina
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To: BlackVeil
Yes, I saw that news blip too. That should be considered especially if the vaccine is triggering systemic cases. The initial pneumonia case I read about mentioned that the muscles and organs were rapidly disintegrating...possible severe autoimmune reaction? Certainly sounds like anthrax exposure.
9 posted on 08/08/2003 4:41:22 PM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: Domestic Church
"Do you mean a sensitivity due to population genetics?"

Yes. (I always wonder that when only some are affected.)

10 posted on 08/08/2003 4:47:25 PM PDT by blam
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To: Libertina
I agree.
11 posted on 08/08/2003 4:52:56 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: demlosers
"The government is covering this up and it is a dog-gone shame,"

A real tragedy and a very tough time for the grieving Dad.

Since every soldier that went to Iraq received these vaccinations, it is difficult to make the case that there are widespread side-effects--about 100 sick with close to 200,00 either serving in Iraq or having already returned.

Because of the Gulf War Syndrome controversy, the Army did medical histories, to include blood samples for that purpose, prior to deployment--gives the docs a baseline to help in diagnosis after deployment.

12 posted on 08/08/2003 4:53:23 PM PDT by mark502inf
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To: demlosers
There may be something else at work here.

Before I went overseas I was scheduled for a LOT of innoculations. I got the Yellow Fever vaccine, but they were out of Plauge vaccine. I was sent to the mainside hospital.

The head nurse (a real battle-ax at least 30 years service) took one look at my chit and called the poor Lt.Jg who wrote it.

"Lieutenant, did you write this Marine for a Plauge shot?"

"And has he already had a Yellow Fever shot today?"

"LISTEN TO ME YOU LITTLE SHIKEPOKE!!! I'VE BEEN GIVING SHOTS SINCE BEFORE YOU WERE A GLEAM IN YOUR FATHER'S EYE!! IF YOU GAVE HIM PLAUGE AND YELLOW FEVER IN THE SAME DAY IT WOULD KILL HIM YOU INCOMPETENT LITTLE ----- ---- ----ING -----!"

I never did get the plauge shot.

13 posted on 08/08/2003 5:03:24 PM PDT by LibKill (The sacred word, TANSTAAFL.)
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To: demlosers
This father has a valid point.
One of the most important records a military member is required to keep very current is the "shot record".
But I personally never felt warm and fuzzie about the number and types of shots I was required to undergo.And that was many years ago, before people started questioning the vaccinations,and before I saw the pallet of flu vaccine boxes at a base hospital that was stamped EXPERIMENTAL-NOT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION.(or words to that effect, it has been a while, and the exact wording may be off regarding the word consumption).
If the correct drug cocktail can cure or prolong life, it makes perfect sence that an incorrect cocktail can cause extreme health problems and/or death.
OTOH, I am fully aware that the term "acceptable attrition ratio" is a neccesary component in military decisions at all levels.
Catch 22.
I only have a layman's knowledge of vaccines and drugs,but the father in this acticle makes a very valid point.

14 posted on 08/08/2003 5:20:15 PM PDT by sarasmom (Punish France, Ignore Germany, Forgive Russia. Canada-well they ARE mostly French)
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To: LibKill
"There may be something else at work here."

Sounds like the peter principle has become deadly in the military's vaccine protocol.

Now I wonder how many will die too early due to a delayed effect of over vaccination.
15 posted on 08/08/2003 5:24:56 PM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: Domestic Church
Now I wonder how many will die too early due to a delayed effect of over vaccination.

In living creatures the effects of vaccination, this, that, and the other damned thing are unpredictable.

It will take someone smarter than me to sort all this out.

I will end by saying that just possibly those cases of pneumonia in Iraq were caused by silicosis, or allergies.

God alone knows (and he does not talk to me).

Our brave fighting men (and women) deserve our best efforts.

When you send someone to fight for you, you must give them the best weapons you have. And if all you have is a pile of rocks, you owe them every rock in the pile.

G. Gordon Liddy

16 posted on 08/08/2003 5:33:16 PM PDT by LibKill (The sacred word, TANSTAAFL.)
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To: LibKill
Well your experience was certainly more dramatic than mine!
I recall an emergency mandatory Wing Commanders Call, where our wing commander countermanded the order to all base personnel, by the base commander, to undergo a mandatory "flu" vaccination.
He described it as entirely optional, and not reccomended.
I, and most of the Wing, would have "killed" for that Bird.
17 posted on 08/08/2003 5:40:01 PM PDT by sarasmom (Punish France, Ignore Germany, Forgive Russia. Canada-well they ARE mostly French)
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To: sarasmom
Well your experience was certainly more dramatic than mine!

The language was also more dramatic than I have described here. I don't want to get banned. :)

Nonetheless, that old battleaxe nurse saved my sorry life. If I ever saw her again I would give her dinner, dancing (I HATE dancing) and flowers.

18 posted on 08/08/2003 5:48:17 PM PDT by LibKill (The sacred word, TANSTAAFL.)
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To: Domestic Church
As an alternative health professional, I am one of many who are skeptical of all vaccines. There are several movements in the US that warn of the dangers of vaccines.
The underlying factor that determines the type of reaction to a vaccine is the quality and quantity of the specific immune response in the receiver of vaccine (host).
The military vaccines, such as anthrax, are particularly challenging to the hosts nervous system, due to their experimental nature. If the hosts immune system is not strong enough to create an appropriate response,ie sensitivity to the antigen, then the vaccine simply becomes a poison in the body, affecting the host system most vulnerable to its toxicity.
My 12 yr old daughter, in robust health, has had no vaccines. (She has had non-toxic homeopathic nosodes).
19 posted on 08/08/2003 6:10:58 PM PDT by Rennes Templar
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To: Rennes Templar
I am also concerned about those with very strong immune systems and genetic predispositions over reacting to these combo military vaccinations and developing severe autoimmue disease.

I'm not for eliminating all vaccines but I have always delayed for several months (until weight and height were in the very upper range of the norm) the normal pediatric ones for my children. With some of the new ones coming out I have religious conflict.
20 posted on 08/08/2003 6:21:35 PM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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