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To: Reagan Man
It is true that I speculate on the founder's opinions on today's political matters, but my speculation is not without merit; the fathers went to war over government abuses that our current government has long since completely eclipsed. The frame of the debate has shifted far towards the socialist left. If the founders were to judge our current government with the same criteria in which they judged the British crown, they would no doubt ask why we hadn't had open rebellion thus far. They were politicians, yes, but they were only willing to compromise with those people who were like-minded and had basically the same goal in mind (a limited government and personal freedom.) When it came to the king, obviously they took a stand that was completely impractical and stubborn, and as a result they jettisoned politics and went to war.

Having a rightwing extremist (by this I assume you mean a "give me liberty or give me death" attitude) view is only useless if you hold it alone. If enough people can be convinced to think as you do, it is no longer extreme, futhermore, the entire concept of liberty is such that comprimising on ANYTHING means you have failed.

"Freedom can't be kept for nothing. If you set a high value on liberty, you must set a low value on everything else." --Lucius Annaeus

289 posted on 08/13/2003 11:44:56 AM PDT by Abe Froman
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To: Abe Froman
>>>If the founders were to judge our current government with the same criteria in which they judged the British crown, they would no doubt ask why we hadn't had open rebellion thus far.

Again, this isn't the late 17th century. It's impossible to say how the Founders would view contemporary American society from our perspective and for good reason. They haven't lived in our time and been exposed to 227 years of historical human advancement. And the issue of rebellion, is not an issue in todays world. FreeRepublic doesn't support the overthrow of the American government. Ask JimRob. While your rhetoric may be provocative, it's just more examples of fringe extremism and reactionary absolutism, running wild.

>>>Having a rightwing extremist (by this I assume you mean a "give me liberty or give me death" attitude)....

You assume wrong. It should be clear to you by now what I mean. Rightwing extremism is just more impractical idealism exhibited by political malcontents, social misfits and wild-eyed militants.

"The paradox with me is how any friend to the union of our country can, in conscience, contribute a cent to the maintenance of anyone who perverts the sanctity of his desk to the open inculcation of rebellion, civil war, dissolution of government, and the miseries of anarchy."
Thomas Jefferson to William Plumer, 1815.

>>> ... futhermore, the entire concept of liberty is such that comprimising on ANYTHING means you have failed.

What utter hogwash. You sound like a libertarian.

290 posted on 08/13/2003 8:33:53 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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