[Miss Marple]

What I am attempting to do is to deprive the gay contingent of their status as holy and martyred.

I want them painted as what they are, thieves.

[sweetliberty]

I understand that, but I guess what I am trying to say is that it is hard to call them thieves when the keepers of the treasury are handing them the keys. They are usurpers and reprobates and deserve to be painted as such. No honest person believes that they are holy and righteous and acceptable to God in their sin. But it is hard to call them to account as thieves when their enablers are the church leaders themselves and, in effect, the stamp of approval has been given to their behavior by the church. Herein is the flaw of an episcopal form of church government.