[chit*chat]

The Vatican tried to hold politicians accountable over the abortion issue - when it was fledgling. Going so far as to threaten excommunication. Obviously, that endeavor was not successful, if the current pro-choice dogma of the democrats and liberals in this country is taken into account.

[Capt. Tom]

The Catholic church should cut to the chase and excommunicate any Catholics that hold opinions contrary to Catholic doctrine: when they have been told those opinions are not Catholic doctrine on the subject, and the offenders persist in their heresy.

Also if you are a so-called Catholic and don't agree with the Church on its doctrine of faith and morals you should get out -you hypocrite. -tom

[dark_lord]

The Vatican tried to hold politicians accountable over the abortion issue - when it was fledgling. Going so far as to threaten excommunication. Obviously, that endeavor was not successful, if the current pro-choice dogma of the democrats and liberals in this country is taken into account.

That's because they didn't carry out the threat. An empty threat is not a real threat. A good vigorous round of excommunications that would pare off about 20% or more of the Catholic Church would be an excellent exercise.