man arrest for detaining illegal immigrants

Yuma Sun ^ | LOUIE VILLALOBOS, Staff Writer

[Cultural Jihad]

>> If they see a speeder on the highway, do they draw guns upon them, too?

> Nope, but then that's not a felony.

Neither did these women and children commit a felony, assuming it was their first time crossing. Now, the vigilante clowns did commit felonies.

[El Gato]

alleged unlawful detention of six illegal immigrants

Spark, spritz, zap, pop... Does Not Compute...

How can there be and unlawful detention of illegal immigrants? (Unless excessive force were used, beyond that necessary to stop and detain them, while assuring the safety of those doing the detaining, which as far as I can see is not being alleged)

[BJungNan]

Bratcher said the department will continue to investigate the case and warned citizens against taking the law into their own hands.

There is no law anymore.

[Cultural Jihad]

These are the very people who...

How fortunate for law enforcement in Phoenix that a concerned citizen such as yourself can predict that these women and children are going to carjack when they reach your city. (sheesh. More 'Dead Birds' tribal justice being advocated)

[lepton]

It is good that these vigilante criminals who commit aggravated assault and unlawful imprisonment are being prosecuted for their crimes. Vigilantism erodes justice.

Vigilante? Are you claimning these three prosecuted, tried, or otherwise condemned the Mexicans?

No, the problem is if they operate in a manner prone to make mistakes, violate actual laws themselves (not just self-serving interpretations of the laws) like not turning them over to the police, or come across people who are not doing wrong.

[Tancredo Fan]

Since you asked, I am in favor of instituting a bracero-type program again to bring in those who choose to work in North America. Once the work is completed the guest workers are sent home.

This won't work unless the anchor baby syndrome nightmare (14th amendment) is corrected, and a foolproof means is developed to locate these people at any time. We all know thay aren't going to leave unless they are caught and deported to begin with. There's no need to import these bums anyhow... just raise wages to what they should be in 2003 and Americans will do the work.

[Cultural Jihad]

There is no law anymore.

Tell that to the vigilante clowns who are being charged with felonies.

[DoughtyOne]

"This is a very disturbing thing to happen here," Oliva said. "We can't have people with guns do the job of law enforcement agencies."

And of course we can't have the law enforcement agencies do this work either, obviously! This gets more absurd by the minute.

[KEVLAR]

That sounds ok. Charging all of them and detaining them for a hearing would be expensive. I guess we just need to catch more of them or prevent them from crossing to begin with. The numbers of illegals here does indicate that our current efforts are not very effective. If congress does not want to adress the issue, US citizens should, and I believe have every right to, get involved.

[Cultural Jihad]

Nice idea. Raise the minimum wage, eh? We could use more unemployed.

[eldoradude]

Remember that cuban kid in Florida? The one with the mp5 in his face? That gunman had a badge. What do you think of that?

Well? So if a man with a badge points a gun in a kid's face is that okay?

[Cultural Jihad]

They have every right to get involved but they have no right to commit crimes in doing so.

[BJungNan]

Shoving a gun in the faces of women and children is not an assault?

Cute response, but how about a constructive one. What would you have done to stop them?

[DoughtyOne]

Please point out for us the spot where anyone shoved a gun in the face of the detainees. They were carrying weapons. So do the police, but they don't wave them in anyone's faces just because then have them on them.

[lepton]

Shoving a gun in the faces of women and children = aggravated assault.

So who is going to arrest the police? ...since your definition is so simplistic. Or are women and children to be immune to such automatically?

[El Gato]

Can you tell an illegal by looking at them?

If you see them coming across the border you can. And if they are crossing private property, it's trespassing, even if they aren't illegal.

[moehoward]

"Should we just stop you since you might be carrying dynamite? (sheesh)"

Illegals could be carrying any number of things. The least of which are drugs or small explosives. How about highly contagious diseases. TB, SARS, this list could be quite long.

[risk]

Once the work is completed the guest workers are sent home.

You hope they'll go home?

And you think that a few businesses are worth establishing a bureaucracy for sub living wage temporary workers? Workers who will get pregnant. Workers who will slip through the cracks. Workers who will grow to be bitter critics of an American economic system that underpays them and treats them like second-class citizens?

Have you ever thought about the fear the Germans have today of their Kurdish and Turkish populations? Populations that were brought in for the sole purpose of feeding their unquenchable labor appetite? Where are the plentiful jobs today? Where are the businesses that could sustain all of that labor and the labor requirements of the German people?

I am not against immigration, but I think we need to start setting some standards. I don't think we need "cheap labor." That's a special interest that is just as damaging as the Democratic immigrant voter harvesting that we've all criticized so harshly.

Get real. Latinos are just like the rest of us who immigrated to this country, some longer ago than others. But we don't need to flood the country as we've been doing with people who don't care about the American dream and only want to build a beach head in this country for sending cash back to Latin America or establish a human wave of Spanish-speakers for the purposes of reclaiming California for Mexico. Have you ever talked to an immigrant janitor or other unskilled worker who can barely speak English? Some will tell you in California they don't have to speak anything but Spanish. These are not good prospective American immigrants. They're here for the quick cash and that's it.

Immigrants who come here should be able to offer us something more than unskilled labor and a promise to send all their cash south of the border.

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