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What is a church? The Greek word ek-klesia defines it clearly: "called out" (of the masses)— by God, not libido. "Church" is not an assembly of the elect chic with the right to decide which political, sexual or other preference, or any fad for that matter, may be considered holy.

Just wanted to repeat this.

10 posted on 08/07/2003 6:40:52 PM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: LibertarianLiz
What is a church? The Greek word ek-klesia defines it clearly: "called out" (of the masses)— by God, not libido. "Church" is not an assembly of the elect chic with the right to decide which political, sexual or other preference, or any fad for that matter, may be considered holy.

In the Bible, the word ek-klesia (eklaseeya) always means a called out group of people. The letters of the New Testament (most if not all) were written to local, visible assemblies of believers; each making their own choices and governing themselves. So where does this idea of a universal (invisible and all encompassing) church come from? How can we say that this supposed universal church is on this earth since it is impossible to assemble all the saints together, until the time of the return of Christ? I can understand using the word church in an institutional sense (the same way I can talk about the "American family"). Such usage in no way should be construed that there is a big universal church with some earthly Dad residing over it - but instead, I understand talking about the "American family" is a way to talk in general terms.

Just something to think about.

And btw - I've been praying that all the saved would leave the Episcopalian organization and that it would fall, as an example on this earth to all those who would mock God and detest His Holy Word.
33 posted on 08/07/2003 7:54:18 PM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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