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To: Joseph_CutlerUSA
I had a neighbor 32 y.a. who was a combat vet of the Korean UN's Police Action. Once his unit was nearly overun by Chinese. He saw dead with round nose.30 carbine bullets stuck in their winter uniforms (bodies used as berms), but gathered that these were 'pass throughs' from a previous hit. Mob charges were common in his rocky ground held. He saw .30-06 hits typically knocking one or more in-line down, many to stay, but carbine hits would not reliably kick even small Chinese off their feet.

His bayonet was his ammo saver policing his position.

IMO, we should all have bayonets with if not on our Homeland Security arms.

His story not only made me want/need a .308 or .30-06 (to begin with), but it made sense to me. For that logical reason, I've been an advocate of big bore handguns ever since, .40+.

I've toyed with the notion of a .243x39, .257x39, or .264x39 Ruger #1 as a kid's training rifle, especially since Ruger now has a .311x39 out. Almost no recoil with 80-120 gr., and with Barnes, it should make for a good 300-600 yard training arm and a quiet 1/8 mile deer rifle. Any experienced out there?

6x45 wildcat has its limitations, but is better than 62 gr. 5.62x45 in most cases, unless 80 gr. can be used in very accurate rifles.

Our Terror War will go global and here. Equip and train your household, friends.

We need to be a literate, skilled, and well armed citizenry to defend our ratified Constitution from enemies foreign and domestic - and protect our children's children's future.
452 posted on 12/02/2003 12:57:07 AM PST by SevenDaysInMay (Federal judges and justices serve for periods of good behavior, not life. Article III sec. 1)
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To: SevenDaysInMay
An old buddy of mine was a Ranger in Korea. Had the traditional "permanent part" of his hair...scalp...from a bullet through his helmet...so, he certainly qualified as an Official Muttly Mentor. He is a gunsmith, and used to load for JFK's vintage "elephant guns"...always looking for scrounged lead..so I gave him a brick-sized lead weight from a motion-picture crane, and sold him my Mark X .300 WM barreled action...got to keep the Mentors happy...

Anyway, his unit of bandits were always improvising and trying to live...like using the old Maxim machine gun they found in a cave...the low bellow chopping away had an observable negative "impact" on enemy morale...but their .45's didn't do enough to the body-armored and heavily clothed, charging hordes. He liked and used his Lahti 9mm...and his eyes glossed over when speaking of it, like a long-lost love. Since he still packed a .38 at work in NYC, our having some real mob-torpedo entertainment there, from time to time...and for dissuading the Subway dignitaries occasionally blocking his commute, he would Mexican-carry a Luger, for all to see. It worked. Then again, he really knew how to use it...but from his experience, I went with the 9mm for work. Now, not needing penetration over everything...I am returning to the .45. The 10mm is just too scarce for me...but that would be my real choice.

This .270 cal is THE American favorite flat-shooter, and it would be gratifying to have it be our GI round, if it could be made to work. Sounds like an excellent Ranch and sporting cartridge, too.
493 posted on 01/07/2004 11:40:43 AM PST by PoorMuttly ("Heaven goes by favor. If it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in." -- Twain)
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