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To: AFreeBird; All
Okay, if you want REAL innovation...I give you the HK G-11 caseless rifle!

Caliber: 4.7 mm caseless

Action: Gas operated, rotating breech

Overall length: 750 mm

Barrel length: 540 mm

Weigth: 3.6 kg empty

Magazine capacity: 50 or 45 rds

It put out a three-shot burst at 3,000 rounds per minute, since it had no need of an extraction system. The rounds were totally encased in their propellant, which was solid. The magazine was positioned on top of the barrel, and the piece was cocked by the knob on the buttstock. It used a 3x scope.

For a while, it looked like the Bundeswher would adopt it, but it was put aside after the Wall fell, and more conventional designs were pursued. Don't ask me why.

It was also looked at as an M16 replacement, back in the '80s.

288 posted on 08/08/2003 4:03:27 PM PDT by Long Cut
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To: Long Cut
For a while, it looked like the Bundeswher would adopt it, but it was put aside after the Wall fell, and more conventional designs were pursued. Don't ask me why

After the wall fell Germany had serious economic problems propping up its eastern half.

Also, what does one do with such a weapon if there is a misfire (dud round). How do you eject the dud?

291 posted on 08/08/2003 4:35:12 PM PDT by LibKill (The sacred word, TANSTAAFL.)
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To: Long Cut
The problem was the caseless ammo. The magazine spring tension would crumble the case and there was no easy way of cleaning it out.

The "Delta Force - Land Warrior" Computer game uses the G-11 and the OICW.
300 posted on 08/08/2003 5:50:17 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat.)
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