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To: SoothingDave; RobbyS
Perhaps you missed where I explained earlier that this has to do with Church proceedings in church law. Civil, secular law is a completely different thing.

Yes, the Church is the judge and jury in its own ecclesial proceedings. Duh. Do you want the state deciding how to run your church.

OK, care to tell me just WHERE in these "ecclesial proceedings" it says it's OK to take a KNOWN pedophile, and just move him somewhere new to DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN?!?! NO accountability...NO WARNING to the Community?!?!

And, Duh...I'm not intertested in the State running any Church...I'm interested when Bishops, Cardinals and who KNOWS else CONSPIRE to thwart Justice in Secular Court by their own damned PERVERTS!!!

As for duh...when will ALL of you get it straight...I am attacking the PERVERTS in YOUR CHURCH, and their enablers!

Will ANY of you RCC-Uber-Alles CHEERLEADERS separate the Church from the priviledged PERVERTS that allow this to happen?!?!

Would any of you take that same attitude if it were a teacher...a Boy Scout Leader...a sports coach...that was as Mafia-protected as these Lavender PERVERTS are?!?!

And as for RobbyS's incessant comments on how "Everybody ELSE is doing it"...

What about the same in the cases not involving Catholic priests, which were far more numerous. Do you think that SNAP is pursung the Public schools, for instance.

I believe SNAP is doing this for the VICTIMS of these Cassoc'd PERVERTS with Immunity!!!

It's not SNAP's job for these others...maybe folks like you could get these pervs out of the PUBLIC sector, since it's too tough to demand that your Church do it to those it has HARBORED!!!

YEESH!

60 posted on 08/07/2003 3:09:52 PM PDT by Itzlzha (The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote!)
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To: Itzlzha
You don't seem to want to accept a comparison between how the secular courts handle offenses and how the Church does. What has happened is that the Church has not applied its own standards correctly. This is often true, more often true probably, of the civil courts, whose standards, on paper, are equally strict bit which are, in the interest of expediency, often applied leniently. The Church, in other words, has followd the example of the worldly rather than serving as a light unto the world. At bottom I am telling you if you don't like the kind of justice that the Church has dealt out, you really won't like the justice that the secular courts usually hand out
on the same issues. There are priests being sentenced to hard time for offenses that are normally treated as matters of probation.
69 posted on 08/07/2003 3:28:31 PM PDT by RobbyS
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To: Itzlzha
OK, care to tell me just WHERE in these "ecclesial proceedings" it says it's OK to take a KNOWN pedophile, and just move him somewhere new to DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN?!?! NO accountability...NO WARNING to the Community?!?!

Duh. It doesn't. You really need to listen to what is being said. Really.

Yes, bishops did awful things. No, it wasn't under orders from the Vatican. This document does not order a "cover up." That is my point. Try to follow along, it might help.

SD

80 posted on 08/08/2003 5:20:28 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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