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Are You Being Serbed ? (BARF Alert)
The Washington Times ^ | 2003-08-06 | Helle Dale

Posted on 08/06/2003 12:24:15 PM PDT by DTA

Edited on 07/12/2004 4:05:56 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

The Serbs are at it again. Once again, they are playing their role as the perpetual victims of Europe, complaining about unfair treatment by the international community and whining about the injustice of it all. If the Serbian mentality was supposed to have changed since the ouster and war crimes indictment of former dictator Slobodan Milosevic, this was not evident from the recent visit of Serbian government leaders to Washington.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: balkans; campaignfinance; defamation; grouplibel; hatespeech; racism
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"The [xxx] are at it again. Once again, they are playing their role as the perpetual victims of Europe..."

Der Sturmer language, revisited.

1 posted on 08/06/2003 12:24:16 PM PDT by DTA
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To: DTA
As if anyone in the Balkans doesn't have bloody hands.
2 posted on 08/06/2003 12:25:34 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: DTA; *balkans; Destro; joan; smokegenerator; getoffmylawn
Et tu Washington Times?
3 posted on 08/06/2003 12:31:06 PM PDT by Incorrigible
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>>>>>As if anyone in the Balkans doesn't have bloody hands.<<<

This is beside point. This article violates US law

-group libel

-hate speech

(group libel and defamation of entire nation)

4 posted on 08/06/2003 12:35:27 PM PDT by DTA
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The Serbs are at it again. Once again, they are playing their role as the perpetual victims of Europe, complaining about unfair treatment by the international community and whining about the injustice of it all.

In this they strongly resemble Arabs.

5 posted on 08/06/2003 12:36:41 PM PDT by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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To: DTA
The columnist is correct. Until the Serbs stop the victim nonsense, they'll never move forward. Worse, they'll just keep on repeating the same old mistakes.

They remind me of the Arabs. Both are totally convinced that they're blameless victims. Thus, they're not responsible for their actions. It's an attitude that absolutely invites the committment of atrocities (which simply invite their neighbors and other powers to hit them even harder). Pathetic.

Oh well, the smarter Serbs will continue to emigrate and eventually become assimilated in a more successful culture such as the US.

6 posted on 08/06/2003 12:43:54 PM PDT by LenS
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To: DTA
I don't think that this qualifies as a "Barf Alert". Normally, "Barf Alerts" are ideologically-driven, left-wing articles attacking conservatives and their ideals. This article is just giving the author's personal opinion about the mythology of Serbian national identity.

A difference of opinion does not rise to the level of "Barf Alert".

7 posted on 08/06/2003 12:46:02 PM PDT by Seydlitz
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To: DTA
It isn't libel when it's the truth. And using the concept of "hate speech" is a Marxist technique for shutting up opponents.
8 posted on 08/06/2003 12:46:48 PM PDT by LenS
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To: quidnunc; dennisw; knighthawk; Tamodaleko
>>>>In this they strongly resemble Arabs.<<<

Arabs? Are you sure?

On 1941-JUL-22, Dr. Mile Budak, the Usta a Minister of Education and Cults, said:

"The movement of the Ustashi is based on religion. For minorities-Serbs, Jews and Gypsies, we have three million bullets. We shall kill one part of the Serbs. We shall transport another, and the rest of them will be forced to embrace the Roman Catholic religion. Thus, our new Croatia will get rid of all Serbs in our midst in order to become one hundred percent Catholic within ten years." 13

During 1941 to 1943, the regime slaughtered at least 250,000 Serb residents of Croatia and Bosnia, and more than 20,000 Jews. Most were systematically exterminated at the Jasenovac concentration camp, and similar facilities. "Usta a units, often encouraged by Catholic clergy, carried out a program of compulsory conversion of Orthodox Serbs to Catholicism; resistance often resulted in murder. Some Serbs, particularly members of the elite, were not even offered the option of conversion to avoid being killed." 14 "Conditions in the Jasenovac camps were horrendous. Prisoners received minimal food. Shelter and sanitary facilities were totally inadequate. Worse still, the Ustasa guards cruelly tortured, terrorized, and murdered prisoners at will." 15 After mid-1942, a further 7,000 Jews were dispatched to Auschwitz-Birkenau in Poland for slaughter. "The Ustasa government was dissolved in May 1945. After the war, most of the Ustasa leaders escaped to South America or Spain." 16

9 posted on 08/06/2003 12:50:49 PM PDT by DTA
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...It is now just three years since the NATOalliance bombed Serbia to end the wars of aggression waged by the Serbs against their Balkan neighbors...

Hillary bombed the hell out of the Serbs to keep them from stopping the invasion of the balkans by Al Qaida.

Just one more of a thousand reasons she should hang.
10 posted on 08/06/2003 12:51:10 PM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Germanicus has already been banned from FR.)
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C'mon. Everyone knows that the Serbs are genocidal sociopaths. Any questions? Ask Destro. He can teach you how to falsely accuse an entire ethnic group.
11 posted on 08/06/2003 12:52:16 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: DTA

Are you being serbed, sir?


12 posted on 08/06/2003 12:53:02 PM PDT by Liberal Classic (Quemadmoeum gladis nemeinum occidit, occidentis telum est.)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
<<<<...It is now just three years since the NATOalliance bombed Serbia >>>>

Another example what kind of author Ms. Halle Dale is. She can not even do the bacic math (2003-1999), let alone quote accurate facts about complex issues.

This is paid hatchet job. Hope The Washington Times will pay handsomely too for printing it.

Messing up the Balkans and harming American Foreign policy is in the interest of George Soros as well as Al Qaida.

The question here is: who ordered this ope-ed?

13 posted on 08/06/2003 1:08:12 PM PDT by DTA
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>>>>>It isn't libel when it's the truth<<<

You are absolutely correct. But what happens when an article use factually incorrect data to claim something.

Hate speech is precisely defined by the US law. Was that law written by Marxists?

14 posted on 08/06/2003 1:13:43 PM PDT by DTA
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And the Serbs triggered WW I which cost millions of lives.

I suggest that you would be well-advised not to go back into history to attempt to portray Serbs as innocent victims.

15 posted on 08/06/2003 1:29:30 PM PDT by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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To: quidnunc
Have you read it here, perhaps?
16 posted on 08/06/2003 1:35:52 PM PDT by DTA
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>>>>>I suggest that you would be well-advised not to go back into history to attempt to portray Serbs as innocent victims.<<<<<

In WWI Serbia lost 56% of male population. A loss comparable to the percentage of Jews who lost life in Holocaust (30% of all Jews worldwide)

Your post is an attempt to criminalize the victim. Can you explain why you are doing it?

17 posted on 08/06/2003 1:45:03 PM PDT by DTA
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DTA wrote: In WWI Serbia lost 56% of male population. A loss comparable to the percentage of Jews who lost life in Holocaust (30% of all Jews worldwide) Your post is an attempt to criminalize the victim. Can you explain why you are doing it?

The Serbs, fired by pan-Slav politics, triggered WW I — in other words, they started it.

Ipso fact they weren't victims.

The percentage of Serb males lost during the conflict has no more bearing on their culpability than does the percentage of Jews lost during the Holocaust have anything to do with the case.

18 posted on 08/06/2003 1:54:29 PM PDT by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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They weren't the cause of it, but it set in train something which was bound to happen. The Great Powers had for years been building up their militaries and tensions were rising between them of their territories/colonies in Africa.

The Archduke was there because Austria was conducting military manuevers on Serbia's border. Austria wanted war a war to happen.

And why should America complain about WWI, as American Industry boomed because of it. The chemical industry, cut off from supplies from Germany, developed because of WWI. Monsanto, I believe, is one example. WWI helped America grow stronger than its European rivals.

19 posted on 08/06/2003 2:04:36 PM PDT by joan
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joan wrote: They weren't the cause of it, but it set in train something which was bound to happen. The Great Powers had for years been building up their militaries and tensions were rising between them of their territories/colonies in Africa.

Maybe WW I was inevitable and maybe it wasn't, what is incontrovertible is that the Serbs triggered the war.

The Serbs are one of those cultures which has constructed a national mythos that's at odds with historical reality — and they apparently won't give up on their obsession with a Greater Serbia.

Their obsession with the past and their compulsion to nurse grudges for preceived wrongs almost a millenium old (a defeat at the hands of the Teutonic Knights in the 1080s) means that they are destined to continue to periodically be disturbers of the Eastern European peace.

20 posted on 08/06/2003 2:20:32 PM PDT by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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