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To: Redleg Duke
I have been thinking about this issue this morning and I believe I see an underlying motive.

The gay movement in churches does, indeed force people out (along with other divisive liberal issues). I myself have left my life-long church, the Methodists.

I notice that the gays are not lobbying in the Southern Baptists, nor in the Church of Christ, nor in the Assemblies of God. Now, one would on its surface think that it is because those churches are less susceptible to the message of "inclusiveness." That may be true, but there is another underlying reason as well, I think.

The mainline Protestant denominations, as well as the Roman Catholics, own a great deal of real estate and have fairly large bank accounts. The real estate (in Manhattan and Boston and other large cities across this nation) is owned by the denomination, not the individual congregation. An entire Episcopal congregation who wishes to split from the church and go independent must LEAVE the building, abandoning it to the gay-friendly people. This holds true for the Methodists as well.

On the other hand, most Southern Baptist congregations own their property individually. They can withdraw without losing the building.

It seems to me that this is a concerted effort to not only shape public opinion but to control real estate and money. Money is used to sway political beliefs, push certain social issues, and shape public discourse.

It seems to me that there is a plan afoot to rob people who have donated their time and treasure (in some families' cases, for generations) to a congregation and church building, and secure the land and money for their own purposes.

In other words, this is about money as much as sex. Otherwise, why wouldn't these people simply start their OWN churches? They don't want to do that, because they want the land, the buildings, and the money. I think this needs to be looked at with more attention to the financial side.

Let us not forget that Satan comes as a thief in the night.

60 posted on 08/06/2003 6:01:37 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Miss Marple
Miss Marple, as always you have hit the nail on the old proverbial head! Thanks for your clarity on the subject. I was a Methodist for 30 years and loved my church, but I never really heard about salvation there. I had to go to a Baptist Church to learn that.
74 posted on 08/06/2003 7:59:13 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD is still in control!)
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To: Miss Marple
A very good point. The Lutheran Church properties are owned by the local congregations. I think the queers are going after the ELCA because they see a vulnerability in the liberal and oh-so sophisticated elite.

I predict that the more conservative, main-stream Lutherans from the old American Lutheran Church will split away if the queer agenda is recognized, leaving the LCA folks stuck with the queers.

As an afterthought, I for one will not use the term "gay" in reference to the queers. I do not consider them or their lifestyle as "gay".

75 posted on 08/06/2003 8:00:53 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (Stir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
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