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Job cut announcements up 43%
CNN Money ^ | Aug 5, 2003 | Mark Gongloff,

Posted on 08/05/2003 1:23:15 PM PDT by ex-snook

Edited on 04/29/2004 2:02:54 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: null and void
Let me see if I've got this right.  Citizenship today guarantees...

1. You get to compete with cents an hour overseas employees for your job
2. You can't afford medical coverage, to take vacations or to save for your retirement on what you earn, and your employer doesn't contribute to any of these
3. Your neighborhood has been overrun by third world individuals who make about the same salary you do, only under the table
4. You can't afford to support your own family, but the folks mentioned in item 3 can afford to send billions collectively back to the old country, further decaying economic activity in your neighborhood
5. 50 to 75% of the people in your own home town don't speak English and want to forsake US holidays and celebrate those from the old country
6. Your president fails to notice your income status, but thinks people from other nations need billions of dollars worth of supports
7. While you don't have the funds for medical care, the foreign national gets it for free
8. While you can't afford to send your kid to college, the foreign national get free k-12 education for his children to the tune of $80 to $120 thousand dollars.
9. Your children get a small discount on their college tuition if they are instate, because you worked your whole life paying taxes to support these programs.  The foreign national's children get these discounts because, well just because.  It doesn't matter if most their parent's income was under the table thus avoiding taxes.
10. While your wife gets strip searched or x-rayed at the airport, revealing the most intimate of her personal anatomy, our borders remain wide open, people from terrorist states STILL entering our nation.  Your bank and your state recognize foreign IDs which are not secure and may actually facilitate the monetary transactions of terrorists.  While you have to provide secure ID at airports, the illegal alien can now obtain the same ID without secure documentation in a growing number of states in our nation.
11. While your family endures this treatment at our airports, merchandise crossing our borders passes thorugh 95 to 98% uninspected.  It receives better treatment than it's human counterparts.
12. While you see fewer movies and go out to eat less often, the government redistributes what funds you to take home, giving it to people who do not pay income taxes at all.
13. If you are married, you pay more taxes than if you and your wife weren't.  Fixing this just wouldn't be reasonable.
14. The crowning act?  When your governor and the president celebrate the day your race makes up less than 50% of your state's populace.

41 posted on 08/05/2003 2:47:05 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: per loin
Solution: Switch from a tax system based on local (this country) income to one based on tariffs.

Why not? sounds good to me. Exactly who has a problem with this idea, and why?

42 posted on 08/05/2003 2:47:18 PM PDT by waterstraat
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To: Dane
"Who knows if the "consulting group" is a demo hack organization. "

You got a point. We will see if they hold up to Freeper scans.

43 posted on 08/05/2003 2:47:50 PM PDT by ex-snook (American jobs need BALANCED Trade. We buy from you. You buy from us.)
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To: waterstraat
Solution: Switch from a tax system based on local (this country) income to one based on tariffs.

Why not? sounds good to me. Exactly who has a problem with this idea, and why?

Every free traitor on FR. They think they'll end up paying more to furnish their mansions. They, of course, ignore the huge social costs of the elimination of the middle-class that will send their taxes through the stratosphere.

44 posted on 08/05/2003 2:55:18 PM PDT by TopDog2 (Deer are the spawn of satan! Wipe them out!!)
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To: ex-snook
Yeah - but we MUST vote on things that matter - GAY RIGHTS !
WACKING THE WOGS !
45 posted on 08/05/2003 2:58:58 PM PDT by Seajay (Ordo e Progresso)
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To: ex-snook
I believe that would be tariffs. One almost forgets that our founding fathers started this nation out by exacly what you referenced and that income taxes were not required until the the mid teens of the last century.
46 posted on 08/05/2003 3:00:21 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne

Bump..

47 posted on 08/05/2003 3:04:47 PM PDT by Jhoffa_
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To: Jhoffa_
Even on this forum it is becoming painfully obvious that very few people understand more than a few of the items I mentioned here, or simply sign off on the idea that everything must be okay since "we're in control".
48 posted on 08/05/2003 3:12:10 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: ex-snook
Apparently the continuing job losses are fueling the economic recovery.
49 posted on 08/05/2003 3:15:13 PM PDT by Ed_in_NJ
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To: DoughtyOne
Yeah, there's something about people cheering government intrusion for the sake of "safety" while you could pack a nuke right across the border that bothers me.

What bothers me worse is that I am in the minority for even having these concerns to begin with.

The cult of personality marches on..

50 posted on 08/05/2003 3:16:02 PM PDT by Jhoffa_
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To: DoughtyOne
"I believe that would be tariffs"

Shhhhhh Sure but you can't mention that word. The screw-Americans-job-exporters will holler PROTECTIONIST and then you are not supposed to say anything more. If you do you will be branded ignorant, stupid, isolationist, homophobe, xenophobe, communist, socialist, fascist, and so forth and so on.

51 posted on 08/05/2003 3:16:04 PM PDT by ex-snook (American jobs need BALANCED Trade. We buy from you. You buy from us.)
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To: Jhoffa_
True. Dammit!
52 posted on 08/05/2003 3:18:44 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: ex-snook
Did you leave out Hitlerian and Nazi? Shame on you.
53 posted on 08/05/2003 3:20:23 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Ed_in_NJ
"Apparently the continuing job losses are fueling the economic recovery. "

LOL Sort of win one for the 'Wall Street Ripper'.

54 posted on 08/05/2003 3:21:44 PM PDT by ex-snook (American jobs need BALANCED Trade. We buy from you. You buy from us.)
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To: DoughtyOne
"Did you leave out Hitlerian and Nazi? Shame on you. "

LOL. I accept your amendment.

55 posted on 08/05/2003 3:24:06 PM PDT by ex-snook (American jobs need BALANCED Trade. We buy from you. You buy from us.)
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To: ex-snook
;-)

Note I didn't mention the other name that sends these folks in appoplectic fits. See, I do have some mercy in me.
56 posted on 08/05/2003 3:26:29 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Jhoffa_
Yeah, there's something about people cheering government intrusion for the sake of "safety" while you could pack a nuke right across the border that bothers me.

It's all a sham. Dept. of Homeland security is a joke. Nothing more than an excuse to spend more money in a last ditch effort to stimulate the economy. Hundreds of tons of drugs cross the borders every year and anyone who thinks that moron Tom (put some duct tape on it) Ridge is going to protect them is nuts.

Richard W.

58 posted on 08/05/2003 3:33:23 PM PDT by arete (Greenspan is a ruling class elitist and closet socialist who is destroying the economy)
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To: DoughtyOne
Wow, seeing it on paper really tends to make my blood boil.
59 posted on 08/05/2003 3:36:52 PM PDT by riri
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To: DoughtyOne
Great list. I like 9 & 10 the best.

9. Your children get a small discount on their college tuition if they are instate, because you worked your whole life paying taxes to support these programs. The foreign national's children get these discounts because, well just because. It doesn't matter if most their parent's income was under the table thus avoiding taxes.

10. While your wife gets strip searched or x-rayed at the airport, revealing the most intimate of her personal anatomy, our borders remain wide open, people from terrorist states STILL entering our nation. Your bank and your state recognize foreign IDs which are not secure and may actually facilitate the monetary transactions of terrorists. While you have to provide secure ID at airports, the illegal alien can now obtain the same ID without secure documentation in a growing number of states in our nation.
60 posted on 08/05/2003 3:49:08 PM PDT by LibertyAndJusticeForAll
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