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To: Morgan in Denver
"Finding a way fails to explain the transformation the Episcopal church has gone through over the past number of years. This church is trying to be everything to everyone, and in that endeavor has lost any claim to being a world religion."

. . .believe what has happened to the Episcopal Church. . .is the same thing that has happend to the Catholic. . .and American 'culture' in general. . .

The Liberal Left has been manipulating, diluting; spoiling. . .corrupting. . .altering the traditions; beliefs and expectations of those who particpate in that culture. . .

They have carried the mantles of enlightened individuals when in fact, they are just the opposite.

"My Grandmother, what big eyes you have. . ."

. . .they probably have had this one deleted from early childhood education.

38 posted on 08/05/2003 11:59:00 AM PDT by cricket
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To: cricket
The Catholic Church would be in the same position as the Episcopal Church if it (we) didn't have a structure and hierarchy to guard against the evil and stupidity of men. Thank God for "papal infallibility", which does not mean popes are perfect; it means that even if a pope be a scoundrel, God will guard the core beliefs of the Church.

We Catholics are just as sinful and dopey as Episcopalians, and there but for the grace of God go we.
43 posted on 08/05/2003 12:03:06 PM PDT by utahagen
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To: cricket
Thanks for the humor, it's appreciated. I have tried to stay out of these things since religion can be so different for everyone.

The past Supreme Court decision on sodomy and the attacks Sen. Rick Santorum received for stating the obvious did stimulate my aggression concerning these issues. Where I used to generally leave the issue of homosexuality alone to die on the vine, I realize these people are not going to be satisfied until they force their belief system on all of us, and I'm not willing to do that.

It's not a deep religious issue to me, as it is for others. It IS, however, something that is capable of doing great damage to our society and any legacy we hope to leave to future generations. Vicky Gene Robinson should never be allowed to be in a position of leadership for the Episcopalian church.

I also believe this church associated group, Outright.org, is exceedingly harmful to the church but it is disastrous to individual children who are struggling with sexuality and simply growing up. Anyone who does not realize homosexuals recruit kids is not paying attention.

76 posted on 08/05/2003 12:37:51 PM PDT by Morgan in Denver
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