[pabianice]

This felony should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Seems certain they are likely to find a nest of smarmy liberals behind it... 'for the children'...

Any Freeper investigators out there want to try and find the criminals involved?

[Joe Brower]

A related article is also posted here: Gun Statistics Expert John Lott Victim of Identity Theft .

[HurkinMcGurkin]

I am not well versed in "E-law", but wouldn't the ISP be legally liable for knowingly hosting a fraudulent web site? I mean, Lott has contacted the ISP and told them about the problem, so they know now. Anyone?

[Grampa Dave]

I hope that they catch the Rat Frauds responsible for this. It would be nice if they worked for one of the Rat drawfs running for President.

[sc2_ct]

Here is the Whois results. Note the name servers at the bottom...

Domain ID:D98296683-LROR
Domain Name:ASKJOHNLOTT.ORG
Created On:27-Jun-2003 22:10:30 UTC
Last Updated On:27-Jun-2003 22:16:48 UTC
Expiration Date:27-Jun-2004 22:10:30 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:R91-LROR
Status:TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Registrant ID:GODA-03418410
Registrant Name:Mary Rosh
Registrant Organization:Center for Truth
Registrant Street1:380 Main Street
Registrant City:Washington DC
Registrant State/Province:New York
Registrant Postal Code:10012
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.9179132591
Registrant Email:maryrosh@mail.com
Admin ID:GODA-23418410
Admin Name:Mary Rosh
Admin Organization:Center for Truth
Admin Street1:380 Main Street
Admin City:Washington DC
Admin State/Province:New York
Admin Postal Code:10012
Admin Country:US
Admin Phone:+1.9179132591
Admin Email:maryrosh@mail.com
Billing ID:GODA-33418410
Billing Name:Mary Rosh
Billing Organization:Center for Truth
Billing Street1:380 Main Street
Billing City:Washington DC
Billing State/Province:New York
Billing Postal Code:10012
Billing Country:US
Billing Phone:+1.9179132591
Billing Email:maryrosh@mail.com
Tech ID:GODA-13418410
Tech Name:Mary Rosh
Tech Organization:Center for Truth
Tech Street1:380 Main Street
Tech City:Washington DC
Tech State/Province:New York
Tech Postal Code:10012
Tech Country:US
Tech Phone:+1.9179132591
Tech Email:maryrosh@mail.com
Name Server:GW.DATAGRAM.COM
Name Server:NS.CONTAGIOUSMEDIA.ORG

[sc2_ct]

Here's the whois for contagiousmedia.org, note that the name servers once again are shared...

Registrant:
Peretti, Jonah (EGLJTYIIMD)
45 Main Street
12th Floor
Brooklyn, NY 11201
US

Domain Name: CONTAGIOUSMEDIA.ORG

Administrative Contact:
Peretti, Jonah (JP28089) jonah@eyebeam.org
45 Main Street
12th Floor
Brooklyn, NY 11201
US
917-202-1779 fax: 123 123 1234
Technical Contact:
Network Solutions, Inc. (HOST-ORG) namehost@WORLDNIC.NET
21355 Ridgetop Circle
Dulles, VA 20166
US
1-888-642-9675 fax: 123 123 1234

Record expires on 15-Dec-2005.
Record created on 15-Dec-2002.
Database last updated on 5-Aug-2003 12:06:47 EDT.

Domain servers in listed order:

NS.CONTAGIOUSMEDIA.ORG 38.144.92.91
GW.DATAGRAM.COM 208.253.143.244

[sc2_ct]

Here is another site operated by the same people, trying to further discredit John Lott (this one appears to be under investigation though due to the fact that there is a registrar lock on the domain name):

http://www.whoismaryrosh.com

Do note however that "Mary Rosh" appears to be a fake name, taken from a previous situation (you can read more about this by doing a google search for "mary rosh" - it's a long story and sort of off-topic).

[longtermmemmory]

he can also complain to the people who register internet names and take possession of the name. Internet squating is not allowed the way it used to be. Especially for fraud.

[Charles Martel]

Read about Jonah Peretti

[sc2_ct]

I guess that the most suspicious thing so far is that contagiousmedia.org is registered to on Jonah Peretti, who is known for his use of the internet to distribute emails between himself and Nike (yes, the shoe company) over the internet to cause damage to their brand name. You can read about it here, and it is typical leftist:

http://www.sundayherald.com/26947

Coincidentally, he is an employee of Eyebeam in NY, who uses the same name servers as both askjohnlott.org and contagiousmedia.org.

Jonah Peretti himself is/was a student at MIT where he worked in the media lab. He is well known for being one of the revolutionaries in the area of using the internet in a viral method to further his causes. This would be my prime suspect.

[bmwcyle]

I have met John and he is a kind soft spoken person who has worked hard to find the truth. One thing he hates is taking sides and joining mobs. This is a man who does not deserve a mob attacking him.

[Jay D. Dyson]

Hmmmm...

The site (www.askjohnlott.org) is running:

 Apache/1.3.20 Sun Cobalt (Unix)
 mod_ssl/2.8.4
 OpenSSL/0.9.6b
 PHP/4.0.6
 mod_auth_pam_external/0.1
 FrontPage/4.0.4.3
 mod_perl/1.25
 on Linux.

At first blush, it would appear that they haven't been keeping up on their security patches. Someone really should notify the people at:

OrgName:    Performance Systems International Inc. 
OrgID:      PSI
Address:    1015 31st Street, NW
City:       Washington
StateProv:  DC
PostalCode: 20007
Country:    US

TechHandle: PSI-NISC-ARIN
TechName:   PSINet, Inc. 
TechPhone:  +1-518-283-8860
TechEmail:  hostinfo@psi.com 

OrgAbuseHandle: COGEN-ARIN
OrgAbuseName:   Cogent Abuse 
OrgAbusePhone:  +1-877-875-4311
OrgAbuseEmail:  abuse@cogentco.com

OrgNOCHandle: ZC108-ARIN
OrgNOCName:   Cogent Communications 
OrgNOCPhone:  +1-877-875-4311
OrgNOCEmail:  noc@cogentco.com

OrgTechHandle: IPALL-ARIN
OrgTechName:   IP Allocation 
OrgTechPhone:  +1-877-875-4311
OrgTechEmail:  ipalloc@cogentco.com

It'd be a shame if the site were breached and defaced. Lord knows none of us want that.

[Ouachita]

Mayzel would neither confirm nor deny that Google had taken any action regarding the advertisement, but more than a dozen searches conducted Friday afternoon for variations of "John Lott" and "Ask John Lott" did not result in the ad being displayed.

Google search for "Ask John Lott". The ad showed up on my first try.

 

IP Block info for www.askjohnlott.org:

08/05/03 11:31:21 IP block 38.144.92.91
Trying 38.144.92.91 at ARIN
Trying 38.144.92 at ARIN

OrgName: Performance Systems International Inc. 
OrgID: PSI
Address: 1015 31st Street, NW
City: Washington
StateProv: DC
PostalCode: 20007
Country: US

NetRange: 38.0.0.0 - 38.255.255.255 
CIDR: 38.0.0.0/8 
NetName: PSINETA
NetHandle: NET-38-0-0-0-1
Parent: 
NetType: Direct Allocation
NameServer: NS.PSI.NET
NameServer: NS2.PSI.NET
Comment: 
RegDate: 1991-04-16
Updated: 2003-03-14

TechHandle: PSI-NISC-ARIN
TechName: PSINet, Inc. 
TechPhone: +1-518-283-8860
TechEmail: hostinfo@psi.com 

OrgAbuseHandle: COGEN-ARIN
OrgAbuseName: Cogent Abuse 
OrgAbusePhone: +1-877-875-4311
OrgAbuseEmail: abuse@cogentco.com

OrgNOCHandle: ZC108-ARIN
OrgNOCName: Cogent Communications 
OrgNOCPhone: +1-877-875-4311
OrgNOCEmail: noc@cogentco.com

OrgTechHandle: IPALL-ARIN
OrgTechName: IP Allocation 
OrgTechPhone: +1-877-875-4311
OrgTechEmail: ipalloc@cogentco.com

# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2003-08-04 19:15
# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.

[Bikers4Bush]

askjohnlott.org

"File Not Found
The requested URL was not found on this server."

Well that was fast.

[Mini-14]

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[Roscoe]

Trademark infringement and identity theft seem to be Peretti specialties.

Another example of his efforts:

http://www.whatisvictoriassecret.com/

[Dan Cooper]

Every time someone clicks through on the paid advertisement it costs the advertiser. I think the Google minimum is 5 cents. I think everyone here should try doing a search for "John Lott" on Google and click through the advertisement, just to see how this works. Of course if the advertiser's account runs out of money (there is a monthly limit that the advertiser sets) then Google takes the ad down until more money is authorized.

[autoresponder]

1:20pm TUE AUG 5 2003

GOOGLE SEARCH:


Ask John Lott - About John Lott
About John Lott: John R. Lott Jr., is a resident scholar at the American
Enterprise Institute. Before joining AEI, Mr. Lott was ...
www.askjohnlott.org/bio.html - 6k - Cached - Similar pages

Ask John Lott
Dear Fellow Gun Owner,. I find that gun owners are usually pretty good
at keeping themselves informed about the politics and issues ...
www.askjohnlott.org/ - 5k - Cached - Similar pages
[ More results from www.askjohnlott.org ]

John Lott's Website
... A Web site called "Ask John Lott" appears to offer Mr. Lott's responses to questions
about gun laws, but Mr. Lott said he has nothing to do with the site. ...
www.johnrlott.com/ - 65k - Cached - Similar pages

Inside Politics - The Washington Times: Inside Politics
... makers seem to be targeting economist John Lott, author of "More Guns, Less Crime"
and "The Bias Against Guns." A Web site called "Ask John Lott" appears to ...
www.washtimes.com/national/inpolitics.htm - 67k - Cached - Similar pages

[tang-soo]

Pic of Boy Jonah

[mansion]

Okay: I'm not condoning identity theft, and I know Mr. Lott is probably a nice guy who's been unfairly maligned, etc. But doesn't anyone here find it even slightly amusing?

I mean, John Lott makes up a fake identity (Mary Rosh), to chearlead for himself, and someone not only steals his real identity, but also takes over his fake identity to parody him? It's funny on multiple levels.

Ever since I learned about "Mary Rosh", I've wondered how many of the reviews of Mr. Lott's books are actually him. What if Mary Rosh was the only identity that was actually discovered, but he had others? In fact, I wonder if any of his defenders on FR are actually Lott himself.

I usually don't make light of others misfortunes, but Mr. Lott did get himself into this mess by his own intellectual dishonesty.

should i prepare for "flames"...?

[pabianice]

Guess which disclaimer just appeared on the site??

"This site is not run by John Lott, he has no affiliation with it. It is run by Mary Rosh. John Lott used Mary Rosh to support his books in internet forums, and put false claims in her mouth. Now Mary Rosh has created this site, to show John Lott that parody is a two-way street. You can find out more about her at WhoIsMaryRosh.com."

I'd say a bit too late to save this guy's tuchis...