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To: punster
It is logical assume that those same androgen blockers, given to a pregnant woman (carrying an XY fetus), will cause a similar effect and produce a boy that will exhibit female behavior, including sexual behavior.

Studies show that if you destroy the olfactory of a male rat, the male rat ceases sexual behavior. By your "logic," if a human male loses his sense of smell, his sexual behavior ceases. I don't find your definition of logic in my dictionary. No reputable scientist will claim that research results from laboratory rats alone is incontrovertible proof of the human condition. The data is out there on offspring of women who use androgen blockers. I suspect it does not support your theory or you would refer to that data rather than rat research as would *every* person who is looking for a physiological/biological cause for TG/TS.

It is not logical to jump from male rat sexual behavior (which is defined as mounting, intromission and ejaculation) to the human male crossdressing fetish. How human women dress and "act" is a product of our social environment and is learned. Women "act" at being women (social perception) the same way males "act" at being male... or "act" at being female. Scottish perception of an aggressive male is a man in a skirt (kilt). Your assumption above is not only not a logical conclusion, it's bad science.

Now, answer the question: Will a boy that is misprogrammed will have an easy time in society?

And your point is? That it's better to hoodwink the public into believing something that's not been proven by using a bunch of doubletalk? The public is ignorant sometimes but not all times. In the end, you will do more harm to your cause by generating suspicion, distrust and resentment.

I teach a college level course on toxicology.

As what? No reputable scientist would attempt to persuade the public that research results mean anything more than what they really mean. You don't seem to grasp the concept of scientific studies supported by empirical data before you promote a theory as fact. I'm not gullible enough to not know that a good number of people on the internet misrepresent who and what they are. You are definitely no scientist.

I'm not interested in your guesswork and unsupported theories. You aren't fooling anyone here.

74 posted on 08/07/2003 3:21:32 PM PDT by hotpotato
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To: hotpotato
There is one definite piece of evidence that the brains of transgender patients have differences in the structure of their brains. A paper that was published in the science journal 'Nature' during 1995.

Specifically, the researchers found the transgender patients had BTSC structures in the hypothalamus that were more consistent with that of women. It is doubtful those changes occurred after gestation, given your own arguments that drugs like cyproterone acetate given during adulthood did not change the gender identity of the patients to whom it was administered.

Unfortunately, it does seem that people are programmed by the hormonal environment in the womb, and chromosomes are of secondary importance.

There are no good answers that will satisfy everyone.
76 posted on 08/08/2003 9:10:33 AM PDT by punster
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