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To: pram
Suppose someone made an edict that all of our vices or weaknesses were now innate, immutable parts of our character, and we should never try to change, and if we did try, we never will succeed? Horrible.

Exactly. Pedophilia is another example of those vices or weaknesses - one which these individuals as well as mental health experts claim can never be "cured." Also, check out the article I mentioned in my last post "A New Way to Be Mad." A real eye-opener. We have become a society of over-indulgence and self-gratification at any expense with an internet full of cheerleaders ready to cheer us on for anything our heart desires. Just do it.

53 posted on 08/05/2003 12:58:53 AM PDT by hotpotato
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To: hotpotato
I just checked the link, and read the first part. It's a little late for me to read more tonight (scarey dreams?). I have heard about these people before, this was in even more detail.

The author mentions something about identity confusion. I think that is the key point. When people identify solely as their body, this is actually a form of insanity right there. The body is a changing, growing and then decaying, vehicle of flesh and blood, and every day is a reminder of its impermanence. My understanding (and a common one among various religions) is that one's real identity is a soul, or in Sanskrit, atma, eternal self. The nature of the soul or atma is that of an eternal spiritual individual, temporarily inhabiting the body.

So the changes and imperfections of the body actually are foreign to the soul's nature, which is (in the pure state) experienced as blissful, full of wisdom, and untouched by the destruction of time. Only the body is subject to decay.
Sick people such as "transgendered" and the amputee devotees are people who have really gone off the deep end. I can't imagine how they could be healed - have you heard of anything that helps them?
55 posted on 08/05/2003 1:22:22 AM PDT by First Amendment
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