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On Gay Issues, 'Right' Has Stolen Christianity
NY Newsday ^ | August 4, 2003 | Fenton Johnson

Posted on 08/04/2003 8:58:46 AM PDT by presidio9

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1 posted on 08/04/2003 8:58:46 AM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9; Admin Moderator
Please add the requisite BARF ALERT to the heading..
2 posted on 08/04/2003 9:01:07 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: William Creel
The point is, what the heck is the left going to do about it anyway? They brought it upon themselves. Now they are going to feel the backlash.
4 posted on 08/04/2003 9:04:08 AM PDT by presidio9 (RUN AL, RUN!!!)
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To: presidio9
A Gay bashing the usual suspects! $$hole!
5 posted on 08/04/2003 9:07:33 AM PDT by shiva
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To: William Creel
Actually, he probably worships his ass and pays a lot more attention to it than he does to the Bible or any religious teaching.
6 posted on 08/04/2003 9:09:00 AM PDT by BlackElk ( So long Uday and Qucay! Dad should be right along any day!)
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To: William Creel
This guy's main interest is his ASS!

(or someone else's)
7 posted on 08/04/2003 9:09:04 AM PDT by El Laton Caliente
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To: presidio9
I guess we have to welcome the Pope to the VRWC.
8 posted on 08/04/2003 9:10:44 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." GWB 9/20/01)
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To: presidio9
Apostate clericrats always raise this bleet when serious Christians call them on their twisting of scripture. A loud yawn is all this load of nonsense merits. And maybe a few chuckles at the blatant projection of their own thievery and knavery onto their denominational opponents.

As usual, the best way to flush these rascals out of the congregation is to cut off their access to "other people's money" by defunding their clerocracies at all levels, and developing new scripturally sound governance structures that operate only within their legitimate mandate. If these hirelings in shepherds clothing want to be shills for committed perverts and other unrepentantant apostates and unbelievers, they should quit their pastoral disguises and get honest jobs somewhere else, not funded from the gifts of believers.
9 posted on 08/04/2003 9:13:49 AM PDT by Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
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To: presidio9
1 huge "win" for the homo-nazis this weekend (the Episco's)
and 1 setback from the pope. You'd think they would be content to gain some ground, but noooooo!
10 posted on 08/04/2003 9:14:52 AM PDT by irgbar-man ("Forced entry" - Gen. XVIII)
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To: presidio9
This guy makes it sound like CONSERVATIVES have brought about this acrimony. Every one was getting along fine until out of a clear blue sky those evil CONSERVATIVES started attacking gays for no reason at all. It's not like gays are trying to overturn 5000 years of doctrine and tradition or anything.
11 posted on 08/04/2003 9:19:33 AM PDT by DManA
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To: presidio9
Racist:

I find no evidence of the flaxen-haired favorite of the political right.

12 posted on 08/04/2003 9:20:39 AM PDT by DManA
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To: presidio9
The Bible warned about those in our end times era who would call evil good; black, white etc.

And it also warns that they will put authentic Believers to death--the killers thinking they do God a service!!!

The Inquisition was a child's play rehearsal, group.
13 posted on 08/04/2003 9:23:33 AM PDT by Quix (PLEASE SHARE THE TRUTH RE BILLDO AND SHRILLERY FAR AND WIDE)
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Instead I find a portrait - remarkably consistent across all accounts - of a renegade anti-establishment proto-feminist communitarian bachelor Jew. Jesus never comes closer to endorsing orthodoxy than the ambiguous "render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's," even as he frequently advocates inarguably radical behavior.

Odd that the author forgot to mention that Christ was not "rebellious" for rebellion's sake, but because the world and man had fallen short of God's law. And God's law is pretty explicit on issues of morality.

On the other hand, I think that there is a different anti-establishment Biblical "radical" - who is responsible for twisting God's law to yield worldly religions like much of what passes for feminism and communism - that is well-suited to this guy's lifestyle. I'm pretty sure that Lucifer wasn't jewish, however, and I can't find anything in scripture to indicate whether the powers and principalities are bachelors.

14 posted on 08/04/2003 9:27:23 AM PDT by FateAmenableToChange
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To: presidio9
In the 19th and 20th centuries, Christians struggled with and rejected the Bible's condoning of slavery.

Antone know where the Bible condones slavery?

15 posted on 08/04/2003 9:29:28 AM PDT by Lost Highway
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To: Lost Highway
Antone=Anyone
I'm trying to eat lunch here. :-)
16 posted on 08/04/2003 9:30:20 AM PDT by Lost Highway
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To: presidio9
Jesus never comes closer to endorsing orthodoxy than the ambiguous "render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's," even as he frequently advocates inarguably radical behavior.

The author apparently skipped over the Sermon on the Mount.

"Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the Law till all is fulfilled." --Matt. 5:17-18

On the subject of sex, Jesus said, "But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart." --v. 28

Frankly, if Jesus raised the bar on adultery to include lust, what possible reason is there to assume that He lowered it when it came to homosexual adultery?

17 posted on 08/04/2003 9:31:28 AM PDT by Buggman (Jesus Saves--the rest of you take full damage.)
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To: El Laton Caliente
Queers don't pray to god, they pray to their own rectums.
18 posted on 08/04/2003 9:36:18 AM PDT by BOOTSTICK
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To: presidio9
Note the author is a visiting professor of "creative writing".

It is clear he is good at his craft, but as to his reading comprehension of the Bible...that is another story. His only connection between the implied acceptance of homosexuality and Christ's emphasis on "love" is his tenuous ties to Biblical "acceptance" of slavery, and our modern society's so-called rejection of slavery.

In other words, since we have been broadminded enough to reject one alleged "doctrine" the Bible allegedly accepted, we should likewise be broadminded enough to accept a "doctrine" the Bible specifically condemns.

At least this quack didn't try to argue the ambiguity of Biblical condemnations of homosexuality, (although he made aspersions to others citicisms of it).
19 posted on 08/04/2003 9:36:51 AM PDT by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!)
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To: El Laton Caliente
This guy's main interest is his ASS! (or someone else's)

Yes, he obviously has ignored the commandment not to covet his neighbor's ass.

20 posted on 08/04/2003 9:38:25 AM PDT by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!)
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