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Two feuding neighbors killed in double shooting
Associated Press ^ | 08/04/03 | Staff Writer

Posted on 08/04/2003 8:36:29 AM PDT by bedolido

Edited on 04/12/2004 5:54:20 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

YUCAIPA, Calif. (AP) - A deputy shot and killed a man who had just fatally shot his neighbor in a dispute over slashed tires, authorities said. Donald Van Zant, 74, shot his neighbor Saturday while standing next to a sheriff's deputy, said Robin Haynal, spokeswoman for the San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department. Carl Miles, 49, died at Loma Linda University Medical Center.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: double; feuding; killed; neighbors; shooting

1 posted on 08/04/2003 8:36:29 AM PDT by bedolido
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To: bedolido
Grumpy, Old Men.
2 posted on 08/04/2003 8:51:09 AM PDT by Redcloak (All work and no FReep makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no FReep make s Jack a dul boy. Allwork an)
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To: bedolido; newgeezer
An armed society is a polite society, NOT, bump.
3 posted on 08/04/2003 8:52:17 AM PDT by biblewonk (Spose to be a Chrisssssssstian)
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To: bedolido
I think i better give my neighbor dave back his weedwhacker.
4 posted on 08/04/2003 8:52:31 AM PDT by ctlpdad
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To: bedolido
> "Our understanding is that there has been an ongoing
> problem between the two for some time,"

Problem solved.
5 posted on 08/04/2003 10:57:17 AM PDT by jim_trent
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To: jim_trent
I'm sure you didn't know this man personally, however, I did. His wife was a lovely person, who happen to suffer from Lupus. Due to the trauma from his death, it triggered a flare up in her Lupus condition and she passed away one month after he was murdered. They left behind a beautiful little nine year old girl. This orphan was under my care until her family could come to California to get her. So, is that what you call a "problem solved"? I don't think so, this is a tragedy I would never wish on anyone. What if it was of your daughter or granddaughter it happened too? Would it still be a problem solved?
6 posted on 02/23/2004 12:38:09 AM PST by bcoop
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To: bcoop
No, I don't know either side personally. However, my experience is that in most neighborhood fueds, both sides are at fault.
7 posted on 02/23/2004 5:07:16 AM PST by jim_trent
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To: Skylight; mhking
over here
8 posted on 02/23/2004 5:09:09 AM PST by Rightly Biased (Don't be a Cameron Frye in a Ferris Bueller world)
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To: jim_trent
No matter who's at fault, no one deserves to be murdered!
9 posted on 02/28/2004 7:54:13 AM PST by bcoop
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To: biblewonk
An armed society is a polite society, NOT, bump.

I'd rather put up with random senseless violence than the tyrany of a government that had us unarmed.

How about you?

10 posted on 02/28/2004 7:56:57 AM PST by LibKill (Ketchup-Boy is more French than the French!)
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To: bcoop
This article is 6 months old. Why would you dredge this back up?

By the way, welcome to FreeRepublic.

11 posted on 02/28/2004 7:59:33 AM PST by Double Tap
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To: jim_trent
Ya beat me to it!
12 posted on 02/28/2004 8:02:50 AM PST by 7.62 x 51mm (Dogs have masters; Cats have staff...)
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To: jim_trent
my experience is that in most neighborhood fueds, both sides are at fault

My experience is exactly the opposite.

For instance, this one sounds like one of them didn't like the other one parking in from of his house. Well, it turns out that in most cases, the street is public property and anyone can park anywhere. that is the law.

If someone doesn't like that and decides to "correct " the situation by slashing tires, he is 100% at fault.

From the information so far, Van Zant is 100% at fault. While he is beyond punishment at this point, Miller's family has a strong civil case against him, and I doubt that his heirs will ever see a penny of his estate.

13 posted on 02/28/2004 8:05:23 AM PST by CurlyDave
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To: CurlyDave
Lets just agree to disagree on this. Your making up a scenario that totally absolves one side and makes the other totally at fault adds nothing to this conversation.
14 posted on 02/28/2004 12:49:45 PM PST by jim_trent
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To: bcoop
Who said anyone "deserves" to be murdered? I didn't. I just won't get all worked up about a neighborhood feud that turned ugly. In the future, please don't put words in my mouth.
15 posted on 02/28/2004 12:52:44 PM PST by jim_trent
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To: LibKill
I'd rather put up with random senseless violence than the tyrany of a government that had us unarmed.

This is a false dichotomy. I'm pro gun but not a gun worshipper. I also have quite a view of how disfunctional society is becoming and am leaning more and more away from wanting some of my neighbors to be able to carry.

16 posted on 03/01/2004 6:11:16 AM PST by biblewonk (I must try to answer all bible questions.)
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To: biblewonk; LibKill
I'm pro gun but not a gun worshipper. I also have quite a view of how disfunctional society is becoming and am leaning more and more away from wanting some of my neighbors to be able to carry.

Any of your neighbors who carry but (in your words) "shouldn't be able to carry" would get thinned out. That's the beauty of it. ;-)

17 posted on 03/01/2004 8:11:11 AM PST by newgeezer (What part of "shall not be infringed" does the nanny state fail to understand?)
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To: newgeezer
I think there are people who actually think that way!
18 posted on 03/01/2004 9:23:15 AM PST by biblewonk (I must try to answer all bible questions.)
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