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Refilled Inkjet Cartridges Going Cheap
Reuters ^ | 08-03-03

Posted on 08/03/2003 10:40:45 AM PDT by Brian S

Refilled Inkjet Cartridges Going Cheap

Sun August 3, 2003 08:26 AM ET By Ellis Mnyandu and Steve James

NEW YORK (Reuters) - There's gold in those empty inkjet printer cartridges.

A thriving new economy has grown from selling refilled or remanufactured cartridges for up to 80 percent less than manufacturers like Lexmark International LXK.N , Epson 6724.T , Canon 7751.T and Hewlett-Packard HPQ.N charge.

And, the big office-supply superstores, such as Staples SPLS.O and Office Depot ODP.N , have got into the act, collecting empties and shipping them to third parties for refilling and selling in their stores under their own labels.

The cash value of empty cartridges -- a used Lexmark can fetch up to $7 -- has spawned a vast recycling movement and the Internet is clogged with ads for companies offering refill kits or remanufactured cartridges for computer printing.

A Web site (http:/www.empties.com) for buyers and sellers lists prices for the estimated one million empty ink cartridges thrown out daily around the world, mostly by individuals with home computers. Most cartridges can be refilled at least two or three times, or even as many as 10 times, according to experts.

In contrast, laser printers that use toner are used more by companies, which return empties directly to the manufacturers.

It may not be an ink war yet, but the big manufacturers have already felt small-arms fire from refill-merchants, who can operate out of their own kitchens.

Such is the value of empties that tales are told of armored vehicles delivering cartridges in Latin America. And, Office Depot has acknowledged that shop-lifting of ink cartridges ate into its second-quarter profits.

As a result, the big makers are trying to hit back with technology like "killer-chips" that can disable equipment, to keep consumers buying their higher-priced brand-name cartridges.

'TAKING MARKET SHARE'

"They absolutely hate us. We are taking market share from them," Mark Ansier, vice president of Toner Plus, an Austin, Texas-based remanufacturer, said of the big makers.

"They (cartridges) are a very valuable commodity, that's why they are collected in all parts of the world and resold. In some parts of the world they are being stolen."

"Buying and selling cartridges is a $100 million business at the moment," said Ian Marzonie, president of Anzen Corp., which remanufactures and refills 100,000 cartridges a month at its 40,000-square-foot facility in Denver.

For example, his company, which operates the InkjetUSA.com Web site, offers the Hewlett-Packard 78 cartridge online for $20. The same name-brand item in a store retails for $53.

Lexmark, which warned last week it would miss third-quarter earnings estimates because of slowing demand for ink cartridges, downplayed the threat.

"The proportion of total sales of supplies that is taken by these refills is a real minority," Chief Financial Officer Gary Morin recently told Reuters. "In many cases, it is actually a declining phenomenon. It has not been a successful foray."

Not so, said Jim Forrest, of Lyra Research and managing editor of the Hard Copy Supplies Journal, a publication for the digital printing and imaging industry. He said refillers now control 15 percent of the market, and that is rising.

According to Lyra's research, the total value of the inkjet business, including after-market and refill kits, is $21 billion. Forrest said 794 million ink cartridges were shipped worldwide last year, working out at 2.2 million per day, including refilled and "compatible" cartridges.

'BOOMING MARKET FOR EMPTIES'

"There is a booming market for empties, they are worth money, up to $7 or $8 each," he said. "Companies are prepared to pay lots of money for large quantities of clean empties."

Staples plans to donate $1 for every cartridge recycled in its stores, with a goal to raise $5 million for public education. It said 80 percent of inkjet cartridges are thrown away.

"The customer is looking for value and we feel we offer a wider selection of remanufactured ink cartridges," said David D'Angelo, Staples vice president for global sourcing.

He said remanufactured cartridges sold at 10 to 20 percent below the price of those made by branded-product makers. "We hope to gain more market share. This is a very competitive business."

Forrest said the problem now is getting empties, because inkjet printers are used mainly by home users who get through maybe one, two or three a year and throw them in the trash.

Of the major inkjet printer makers, Lexmark has the lowest rate of remanufacture -- 6.6 percent last year but rising to 7.9 percent in 2003, he said. Hewlett-Packard's third-party remanufacture rate is expected to be 13.5 percent this year.

"Lexmark's cartridges are the most difficult to fill," said Forrest, "The inkjet design is extremely difficult, if not impossible, to clone because it includes so many patents and integrates the print-head to the ink tank."

"We're in a dogfight with the OEMs (original equipment manufacturers)," said Ansier.

It is an "absolute fallacy" that consumers might lose a warranty for using anything but an authorized cartridge, he added. "You can use any gas you want in a car."


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I have gone back to laser since most of my printing only requires black & white.

I do have a Lexmark inkjet and I vow to never again purchase any of their products.

1 posted on 08/03/2003 10:40:45 AM PDT by Brian S
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To: Brian S
*BUMP* !
2 posted on 08/03/2003 10:57:29 AM PDT by ex-Texan (My tag line is broken !)
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To: Brian S
My Epson printer died not long after using a 3rd party refill. I never had any problems using the Epson brand. The printer heads are clogged I suppose because if I run the cleaning utility 10 or 12 times before every printing it works, but that gets real old. Maybe it's just a coincidence, but it makes me concerned about the quality of ink that goes into the aftermarket brands.

Anybody have a similar problem, or good LONG TERM results with an aftermarket brand?
3 posted on 08/03/2003 10:58:51 AM PDT by Reagan is King
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To: Brian S
Laser printed documents are much more durable than inkjet printed ones. Even if water or coffee is spilled on laser printed pages, they can be dried out. If a page printed with an inkjet gets wet, the ink will smear on the page. Dye based inks also fade rather quickly. For these reasons, I refuse to sign contracts printed on inkjets.
4 posted on 08/03/2003 11:00:52 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: Reagan is King
Thanks for sharing your experience with refills.

I have two Epson printers currently hooked up, and I was seriously considering going to refills for the older one, as the Epson ones are sooooo expensive, but I don't want to ruin my printer.

Of course, if they worked, I could save enough in a few months to buy another printer.
5 posted on 08/03/2003 11:05:45 AM PDT by altura (Despite many embarrassments, I steadfastly refuse to preview.)
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To: Reagan is King
I have been refilling cartriges for about 3 years without a problem. Occasionally I have cartridge dry out (usually when I don refill it right away) and I have to replace it, but that's the only problem I have had. I bought a generic ink refilling kit and I buy the ink on ebay - supposedly canon ink, but I don't know or care if it's true because it works.
6 posted on 08/03/2003 11:11:12 AM PDT by Gil4
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To: Reagan is King
I've got an HP Office Jet, and had a similar experience to yours. Bought a remanufactured color cartridge, and it clogged two days before a proposal was to be presented, and I had to Fed Ex some documents from my headquarters. In addition, I couldn't get the nozzles clean.

The guy refunded my money for the cartridge, but it's just not worth the hassle.

7 posted on 08/03/2003 11:11:43 AM PDT by sinkspur ("Messina, Brad! Messina!" George C. Scott as "PATTON.")
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>>>...I do have a Lexmark inkjet and I vow to never again purchase any of their products.

I have a Lexmark and have refilled my cartriges more than once.

One of the tricks is to refill before they are completely empty. That prevents a bubble from getting to the print head and causing problems.

After refilling, tell the printer it is a new cartrige. It accepts it as a new cartrige and everything works just fine.

8 posted on 08/03/2003 11:12:54 AM PDT by Dan(9698)
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To: Brian S
The ink jet printer manufacturers have created this mess by virtually giving away a printer while making the cost of new ink cartridges almost as much as the printer. Replacing both cartridges on my $180 printer costs me nearly $70. For cheaper printers it's almost even. It's almost like they want to make the printers disposable.

I am wary of refilled cartriges because of quality concerns and from recent articles in several computer magazines there apparently is a growing counterfeit market for ink cartriges--so even paying the full price may not be the best alternative. Aren't the patents on some of these cartrige technologies about up so cheaper 3rd party knock offs can come into the market?

9 posted on 08/03/2003 11:12:56 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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I recently bought a printer and while checking out models one Lexmark which sold for around $60 had Black and Colour Cartridges and paper which totaled $90 in value if bought separately. Something is definitely wrong if you need some refills for your printer and its cheaper to buy a whole new printer.
10 posted on 08/03/2003 11:15:25 AM PDT by xp38
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That's been my experience. I saved enough money (the black carts were $4 apiece) that by the time the bad ink fatally clogged the jets I could buy a new printer.

11 posted on 08/03/2003 11:19:17 AM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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The printer companies followed the razor blade model and the cell phone model. You give away the razor and make money on the blades or you give away the phone and make money on the airtime.

Lexmark has started putting chips in the ink cartridges that keep count of your copies and when you refill the cartridge the thing still will not work.

My HP inkjet works very well on refilled cartridges though.
12 posted on 08/03/2003 11:21:30 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: Reagan is King
Anybody have a similar problem, or good LONG TERM results with an aftermarket brand?

My lexmark X83 doesn't work well on refills. I've tried refilling them myself and buying refills, but neither works for long and the factory cartridges are actually cheaper to use and less frustrating in the long run (a refill always seems to know when my printing job is critically import and and that it's time to for it to fail).

13 posted on 08/03/2003 11:22:04 AM PDT by templar
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To: sinkspur
TINSTAAFL. These same people are probably getting their drugs from Canada.

Manufacturers used to give away the razor because they made their money on the blades. If this keeps up, expect the price of printers to skyrocket.

Then listen to the complaints.

14 posted on 08/03/2003 11:23:34 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: Reagan is King
"Anybody have a similar problem, or good LONG TERM results with an aftermarket brand?"

I have two Epson 740 printers which have used refills from Ink4Art for over 3 years without a problem. Sometimes it's necessary to run the printhead cleaning utility several times (4-6) after installing a new cartridge. Also, I keep my printers turned off except when printing to reduce the possibility of it drying out and becoming clogged while sitting in the "ready" position.
15 posted on 08/03/2003 11:33:48 AM PDT by Ben Hecks
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To: Reagan is King
Anybody have a similar problem, or good LONG TERM results with an aftermarket brand?

I've never been able to successfully refill an ink cartridge. I had one open up inside the printer and spray ink all over my computer desk, and the other sprayed ink all over a section of carpet as I was refilling it.

16 posted on 08/03/2003 11:38:05 AM PDT by strela ("Each of us can find a maggot in our past which will happily devour our futures." Horatio Hornblower)
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I am currently on my second Lexmark printer and have always refilled my own cartridges and have only had one color cartridge dryup because I was late refilling it.

I bought the second Lexmark because the printer was cheaper than new cartridges.
17 posted on 08/03/2003 11:57:53 AM PDT by edger (he)
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To: robertpaulsen
What "free lunch"?  Using refill kits or remanufactured/refurbished ink cartridges is considered getting a "free lunch"?

Stupidest thing I've ever heard.

Yes, they tried the business model of the old "give the razor, charge for the blades"... Only problem is, we aren't talking about razors and blades, we are talking about printers and ink, and the prices are immensely different.  Paying five dollars for a razor, then paying ten for a pack of five blades is different than paying thirty dollars for a printer, only to have to pay $90 for ink refills when the "introductory" cartridges run out a week or two later.  If this had been the case with razors, then it would have only taken about a month before some enterprising person started making blades that fit those razors for half the price, and like the re-manufacturers and refill makers of today, he would have made a mint.  As it stands, it took a year or two in the razor industry before this happened.

You are correct about the price of printers going up if the printer manufacturers decide to give up on that business model.  You are also correct about that causing folks to complain.  Not only will they complain, they will cease buying printers, and that has the possibility of putting many of the printer manufacturers in the poor house.  This is the quandary that the printer companies face. The only way many of them will stay in business is if they get the "mafia" protection they are seeking from the government using force of arms to close out the re-manufacturers and refill makers thus protecting the poor business decisions of HP, Lexmark, Canon and others.

18 posted on 08/03/2003 11:59:27 AM PDT by Col Sanders (I ought to tear your no-good Goddang preambulatory bone frame, and nail it to your government walls)
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Sticker shock is the only way to describe the shock of cartridges . Two weeks ago we bought a new printer because it was cheaper than the refills for my husbands old one
19 posted on 08/03/2003 12:03:08 PM PDT by RnMomof7 (WERE)
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I bought the second Lexmark because the printer was cheaper than new cartridges.

True. I only use the color cartridge in my HP once every 6 months or so, and have needed to replace two due to them drying up.

20 posted on 08/03/2003 12:05:36 PM PDT by strela ("Each of us can find a maggot in our past which will happily devour our futures." Horatio Hornblower)
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