[Yeti]

twisted propaganda.

Jim, are you serious?

Did you read the definition of partial birth abortion in the bill?

`(1) the term `partial-birth abortion' means an abortion in which--

`(A) the person performing the abortion deliberately and intentionally vaginally delivers a living fetus until, in the case of a head- first presentation, the entire fetal head is outside the body of the mother, or, in the case of breech presentation, any part of the fetal trunk past the navel is outside the body of the mother for the purpose of performing an overt act that the person knows will kill the partially delivered living fetus;

Seems pretty clear to me. And that's before you even parse "deliberately and intentionally" "for the purpose of" "knows will kill" or "overt" ...

Can you see that?

[Jim Robinson]

Yes, I read it. And I don't buy your twisted logic. And there's no way in hell that you could convince me that Rick Satorum and the pro-life Republicans are betraying us. That's pure GOP-hating slander. Kill the baby through partial birth abortion and you go to jail.

[William Wallace]

And that's before you even parse "deliberately and intentionally" "for the purpose of" "knows will kill" or "overt" ...

This is a *criminal* statute.

Intent is a necessary element of any crime.

Otherwise we'd have people going to jail for accidents/mistakes.