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PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION BAN - THE BETRAYAL IS NOW COMPLETE [BARF ALERT - ANTI-GOP PROPAGANDA]
NewsWithViews.com ^ | May 9, 2003 | By David Brownlow

Posted on 08/02/2003 10:39:40 PM PDT by Uncle Bill

PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION BAN - THE BETRAYAL IS NOW COMPLETE

NewsWithViews.com
By David Brownlow
May 9, 2003
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A politician would have a hard time finding a more loyal special interest group than with those of us who oppose the legalized child killing industry. For the last thirty years of the war on the unborn, we have worked tirelessly to elect pro-life, mostly Republican, politicians.

Our loyalty was so strong that even though the Republicans failed to deliver us a single pro-life victory, we continued to send them back to Washington year after year. For thirty years, we trusted the Republicans when they told us to be patient, because they had a plan and a party platform that said abortion was wrong.

We now know that everything they told us was a complete pack of lies.

We know that because the Senate has finally passed the long awaited "Partial Birth Abortion Ban," Senate Bill S.3. Rather than being a useful tool in the fight to stop a barbaric and indefensible method of child killing, S.3 reads more like an instruction manual for abortionists.

In what can only be described as the mildest abortion restrictions that one could possibly put into words, Sec.1531 instructs the "doctor" to make sure and kill the child before "in the case of a head-first presentation, the entire fetal head is outside the body of the mother". Or "in the case of breech presentation", make sure the child is killed before "any part of the fetal trunk past the navel is outside the body of the mother". (Actual text of SB S.3 in quotes)

With toothless restrictions like that, it is highly unlikely that even a single life will be saved. The only thing this will do is to make sure all the children are killed before the "entire fetal head" or the "fetal trunk past the navel" is showing. We waited thirty years for this?

Excuse me for shouting, but IF THE HEAD IS ALMOST OUT OF THE MOTHER, WHY DO YOU HAVE TO KILL THE KID? Do we hate children so much that we cannot wait 10 more seconds for the child to be born? 42,000,000 children killed since 1973 and this is the best they could come up with. What kind of people have we been putting into office?

If Senate Bill S.3 was just plain bad legislation, we could almost forgive the politicians for their incompetence. But believe it or not, this bill gets even worse. It gets a lot worse.

Not content to just write a watered down, sorry excuse for an abortion ban, the Senate goes on in Sec. 4, to let us all know "The Sense on the Senate Concerning Roe. v. Wade". I am not sure what kind of sense these people have, but we have definitely found out what we get for thirty years of loyalty. The 48 Republican Senators who voted to approve S.3, pledged that,

You need to read that again. I've read it about 20 times and it still hurts to look at it.

Please understand that it was not just a few renegade Senators who voted for this. It was 48 Republican Senators, including every one of them who ever told us they were pro-life, who put their name on a bill that says; Roe v. Wade was "appropriate." This is a clear, unambiguous reaffirmation of the illegal Supreme Court decision that started this whole mess back in 1973. If I had not read it for myself I would not believe it.

The extent of their betrayal is absolutely breath taking!

So now we know why the Republicans have gone thirty years without a single pro- life victory. These guys are not even pro-life! We have been fooling ourselves that somehow, despite all the evidence to the contrary, the years of partisan efforts were getting us closer to ending legalized abortion in America. But if the "sense" of the Senate is any indication, we have not even started the fight. We can now only hope that the House has enough sense to put S.3 out of it's misery.

A decades old policy of voting for the lesser of two evils has left us with a Republican Party that is a mere hollowed-out shell of its former self, broken beyond any hope of repair. The only way we are ever going to win this fight is by putting men and women of integrity into office who will not bow to the political pressures.

Clearly, the team we have in there now is not up to the task.


Partial- birth abortion ban hits snag over Roe v. Wade affirmation
"President Bush supports the ban, but there has been no indication if he would sign it into law if it included the Roe resolution."


S 3 ES

108th CONGRESS

1st Session

S. 3


AN ACT

To prohibit the procedure commonly known as partial-birth abortion.

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

SEC. 2. FINDINGS.

SEC. 3. PROHIBITION ON PARTIAL-BIRTH ABORTIONS.

`CHAPTER 74--PARTIAL-BIRTH ABORTIONS

`Sec. 1531. Partial-birth abortions prohibited

--1531'.

SEC. 4. SENSE OF THE SENATE CONCERNING ROE V. WADE.

Passed the Senate March 13, 2003.

Attest:

Secretary.

108th CONGRESS

1st Session

S. 3

AN ACT

To prohibit the procedure commonly known as partial-birth abortion.

END


Bush Signs Largest Family Planning Bill In U.S. History

Covenant News
Staff
January 11, 2002

On Thursday, January 10, 2002, the White House reported President Bush signed the ominous $15.4 billion foreign appropriations bill, H.R. 2506, for fiscal-year 2002. The bill authorizes $446.5 million U.S. tax dollars to be given to other countries for abortion- family planning activities throughout the world. The abortion-family planning funds approved by Bush represents an increase of $21.5 million over last year for international family planning.
[end of excerpt]
SOURCE

U.S. Quietly OKs Fetal Stem Cell Work - Bush allows funding despite federal limits on embryo use

White House killed human-cloning ban
Although President Bush has endorsed a complete ban on human cloning sponsored by senators Sam Brownback, R.-Kan., and Mary Landrieu, D.- La., White House lobbyists contacted Republican senators June 18 to ask them to vote that morning for cloture (a closing of debate to bring a legislative question to a vote) on the Senate's terrorism insurance bill (S 2600), thus preventing an up-or-down vote on a human cloning amendment that Brownback wanted to attach to the bill. His amendment would have banned the patenting of human embryos – effectively destroying any economic incentive for the experimental cloning of human beings."


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To: Jeff Gordon
In that case, the blood of tens of thousands of late term abortions would be on your hands.

Not likely. This bill doesn't stop "late-term" abortions, it theoretically stops SOME "partial-birth" abortions. But it also states that Roe v. Wade is good law & should not be overturned. This PBA thing is a bone thrown to social conservatives, with the hope that we'll squeal with delight & forget the issue, but it's obvious the Senate plans to go no further in the future.

I can tolerate an incremental approach, but this is a dead-end approach.

141 posted on 08/05/2003 10:30:36 AM PDT by Sloth ("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
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To: Sir Gawain
"Do you know for a fact that this bill will save even one baby?"

Do you know that it wont?

142 posted on 08/05/2003 10:30:56 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (The Knight Has A Thousand Names)
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To: Sloth
"but it's obvious the Senate plans to go no further in the future"

How so?

143 posted on 08/05/2003 10:31:46 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (The Knight Has A Thousand Names)
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To: Uncle Bill
This is no surprise. The day that abortion stops being an issue the religious conservatives may leave the Republican fold. They have no real desire to do away with their number 1 platform for religious conservatives
144 posted on 08/05/2003 10:32:59 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Mo1; Trust but Verify; Uncle Bill
Your editorial comments notwithstanding, the section you posted is taken out of context.

That's funny, on my screen Bill's post includes the *entire text*. One wonders what additional context there could be.

145 posted on 08/05/2003 10:37:07 AM PDT by Sloth ("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
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To: Trust but Verify
This subsection does not apply to a partial-birth abortion that is necessary to save the life of a mother whose life is endangered by a physical disorder, physical illness, or physical injury, including a life-endangering physical condition caused by or arising from the pregnancy itself. This subsection takes effect 1 day after the date of enactment of this cha

I believe Bill has posted correct information ,. but even if you are right , what you posted is a hole large enough to drive a truck through

146 posted on 08/05/2003 10:37:21 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: MHGinTN
The liberals worked hard all these years to prevent any legal definition, so this bill at the very least defines the evil method in clear and unambiguous terms. [Boxer accidentally admitted that this bill would effectively ban the most common method for killing infants reaching the 20 or more week age in their lifetimes.

And it then told the "providers "exactly how to get around it

This law will not prevent one late term abortion. The "providers " will simply use one of the loopholes ,or use one of the old fashioned ways to murder an unborn child.

This is not worth the paper it is printed on

147 posted on 08/05/2003 10:41:33 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Luis Gonzalez
How so?

It is the sense of the Senate that-- (1) the decision of the Supreme Court in Roe v. Wade (410 U.S. 113 (1973)) was appropriate and secures an important constitutional right; and (2) such decision should not be overturned.

How can the GOP Senate act to abridge what they have explicitly called "an important constitutional right"? If they do so, they are liars and hypocrites. Name one instance in which the Republicans have gone back on their word in order to do the *right* thing?

148 posted on 08/05/2003 10:42:35 AM PDT by Sloth ("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
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To: Sloth
Would you sign that if in trade you would be allowed to save some babies lives?

Or do you think that the bill should have been allowed to die, along with whatever babies could have been saved by it, in the name of "principles"?
149 posted on 08/05/2003 10:44:40 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (The Knight Has A Thousand Names)
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To: Sloth
"How can the GOP Senate act to abridge what they have explicitly called "an important constitutional right"?"

But that's exactly what they did in this very bill.

150 posted on 08/05/2003 10:46:15 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (The Knight Has A Thousand Names)
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To: RnMomof7
The "providers" who would use the option to "get around" the bill, would perform abortions even if they were made illegal.

What's your point?

151 posted on 08/05/2003 10:47:23 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (The Knight Has A Thousand Names)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
What's your point?

My point is that this "bill" was throwing the Religious Conservative a bone. It is a political document written for 2004 . There will be millions more babies dead by late term abortions when the bill appears in campaign adds

The fact is that neither party want the abortion fight to end. they both have a dog in this fight

152 posted on 08/05/2003 10:52:51 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Luis Gonzalez
But that's exactly what they did in this very bill.

Not at all. The PBA bill is consistent with Roe v. Wade. The decision specifically allows gov't restrictions in the latter trimesters.

153 posted on 08/05/2003 10:55:36 AM PDT by Sloth ("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
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To: Mo1; MEGoody
The judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. Art 3 Sec 1 US Const.

The power to ordain and establish implys the power to regulate jurisdiction and other powers of these courts.

154 posted on 08/05/2003 10:59:39 AM PDT by William Terrell (People can exist without government but government can't exist without people)
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To: carenot
I thought the States have the say over murder. Not the Government.

Amendment XIV
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

155 posted on 08/05/2003 11:19:57 AM PDT by TigersEye (I'm a proud McCarthyite. Let commie heads roll!)
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To: Jim Robinson
Is Mercuria right about this? Is Mr. Santorum putting one over on us?

Well Jim, either Rick Santorum is trying to put one over on us or UncleBill & Co. are trying to put one over on us. Which is more likely? [Rhetorical question, we already know the answer.]

The reason the bill is so carefully worded is simply to withstand constitutional challenge from the SCOTUS. The text is drafted in a fashion that makes it impossible for the current SCOTUS to invalidate it without either flatly contradicting itself or fashioning a new pretext out of whole cloth. The hard core pro-aborts on the Court will do whatever is necessary, but IMO the flippers are unlikely to go along with the Ginsburgs. I'd characterize this effort as a job well done.

It's pretty clear from the Finding of Facts section that the Senate included the "when the life of the mother is endangered" exception only because the Supreme Court recently declared a similar ban unconstitutional for lack of same. The Findings of Fact section also make it clear that Congress agrees with the AMA and 99.8% of obstetricians not on Planned Parenthood's payroll that PBAs are NEVER required to save the life of the mother.

If an abortionist tries to rely on the mother's life exception, the compelling and unambiguous Congressional findings on the subject will be part of the record before whatever court faces the issue. Any abortionist who performs an PBA from now on will be gambling his freedom on the luck of the draw in getting a lefty judge assigned to his case who'll accept his bogus exception excuse in the face of overwhelming medical evidence and these Congressional findings. As Clint Eastwood would say, the question for the PBA performing abortionist is "Do you feel lucky?"

The bill also includes a civil damages section that allows parents to sue physicians for injuries, including psychological injuries, incurred during PBAs. This section creates a financial incentive for otherwise erstwhile allies in the culture of death (i.e., greedy trial lawyers) to devour their own for a change. It's an in terrorem clause for abortionists that hits them right where they live. I like it.

Instead of focusing on these sections, the author of this hit piece and his dupes focus on a legally meaningless resolution of the Senate affirming the Supreme Court's decision Roe v. Wade. To borrow Mercuria's phraseology, this is the real "Potemkin" section of the law. Actually my preferred legal phraseology for this insertion is "BFD." This section adds nothing to the law, it takes away nothing from the law. It is simply included as a political figleaf for the pro-abort RINOs who otherwise might have balked at passing a PBA ban. If they had held out for Mardi Gras beads, that would have cost more, plus we might have had to endure the spectacle of RINO women in the Senate like Snowe and Specter topless. [Coulter joke]

The gratuitous praise for Blackman's folly in this section is almost the perfect insult. Generally speaking, one expects Supreme Court decisions to stand on their own merit without the need for Stuart Smally-like affirmations from other independent branches of government. When referees make calls, they don't usually solicit approval from the players. It speaks volumes to the insecurity and uncertainty of Roe's defenders that they think this sort of lip service adds any legitimacy to that dubious decision. It's almost as if they believe Harry Blackman is reading this somewhere and saying "You like me, you really like me."

We can agree with the naysayers on these points: The bill doesn't ban all abortions. It doesn't overturn Roe (Congress CANNOT overturn Supreme Court decisions.) It doesn't even ban all third-trimester, only the most horrific ones, unspeakably gruesome procedures notorious for their singular savagery and barbarism. It doesn't mark the end of Roe v. Wade, but it is a start. After 30 years of legalized slaughter of innocents, even a small victory is cause for hope. "This is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning."

The peculiar institution of slavery wasn't abolished overnight. The Emancipation Proclamation specifically declared slaves free only in those states that were in insurrection with the government that issued the proclamation. Is there any doubt how the author of this article would have characterized the Emancipation Proclamation or the Republican president who signed it?

The defeat of the Evil Empire didn't happen overnight either. The first setback for Communism in the Cold War seemed insignificant at the time. The liberation of Grenada was similarly ridiculed as was the Republican president who engineered what seemed like a relatively miniscule setback in the inexorable march of Communism. Grenada was followed by major Communist setbacks in Nicaragua, El Salvador, Afghanistan, Angola, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, East Germany and elsewhere.

In the larger scheme of things, the curious timing of second-guessing from certain quarters not heretofore known for their unflinching pro-life views should come as no surprise. No century has a monopoly on malcontents or myopia.

156 posted on 08/05/2003 11:36:39 AM PDT by William Wallace (“This time I think the Americans are serious. Bush is not like Clinton. I think this is the end.”)
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To: William Terrell
Thank you for the info.
157 posted on 08/05/2003 11:51:29 AM PDT by MEGoody
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To: William Wallace
I love you.
158 posted on 08/05/2003 11:52:23 AM PDT by .30Carbine (In a Christian way, of course.)
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To: William Wallace; William Terrell
Reading through all the fluff, I finally found your opinion, which states:

It doesn't even ban all third-trimester, only the most horrific ones, unspeakably gruesome procedures notorious for their singular savagery and barbarism.

Can you show me a doctor that says he can't do a D&X without exposing the navel? Can you show how this bill will ban D&E's, which are just as gruesome as D&X's?

159 posted on 08/05/2003 11:59:15 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: TigersEye
Amendment XIV

Thank you!

160 posted on 08/05/2003 12:05:30 PM PDT by carenot
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