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Hate crime earns record jail time
YORKREGION.COM ^ | Jul 31, 2003 | Jeff Mitchell

Posted on 08/02/2003 5:04:07 PM PDT by demlosers

An unrepentant Brad Love stood in the prisoners' box and railed against political correctness Monday, before receiving a precedent-setting 18-month sentence for promoting hatred against minorities.

"You can't say anything in this country," Mr. Love, handcuffed and dressed in blue overalls, told the court after pleading guilty to 20 counts of willfully promoting hatred.

"I have to question for myself the state of affairs in my own country," he said.

"Folks like me, sometimes we create our own vision."

That vision, according to the Crown attorney's office, was communicated in numerous hate-filled letters to politicians, the national director of a Holocaust studies group and even York Region's police chief.

The racist screeds often consisted of newspaper clippings to which Mr. Love had added his own commentary, prosecutor Moiz Karimjee told Mr. Justice William Gorewich.

"The message being communicated is direct and clear: These groups must be despised," Mr. Karimjee said during the Ontario Court of Justice hearing in Newmarket.

Justice Gorewich agreed with a joint submission from the prosecution and defence, which called for a sentence of 11 months in jail in addition to the seven months Mr. Love served in pre-trial custody. He was also placed on probation for three years.

Mr. Love pleaded guilty to 20 counts of willfully promoting hatred; one count of criminal harassment, two counts of sending scurrilous material through the mail and one count of possession of a weapon dangerous to the public.

Mr. Karimjee hailed the sentence as the toughest ever handed down for promotion of hatred.

"A precedent has been set today," he said. "This is the highest sentence that has been handed down in Canada for hate mail."

Mr. Karimjee said the sentence was intended to send a message that police and courts will diligently pursue those engaged in the spread of hateful messages.

"Hate crime will be investigated thoroughly and prosecuted vigorously by the Crown's office," he said.

Sgt. Heidi Schellhorn, of the York Regional Police hate crimes unit, also applauded the sentence.

"I think it's going to send a strong message to the community," she said.

Jamie Klukach, the other half of the prosecution team, said the sentence exceeded those in other high-profile hate crimes, such as those involving Ernst Zundel and James Keegstra. Mr. Love's extensive criminal record, which includes convictions for assault with a weapon, intimidation and extortion, warranted the heavy sentence, she said.

In her submissions to the court, Ms Klukach also highlighted the "psychological terrorism" Mr. Love's propaganda campaign helped create.

"It has a menacing, quasi-violent dimension to it," she said.

Although Mr. Love framed his writings as legitimate criticism of Canada's immigration system, there was a more sinister undertone, Ms Klukach said.

"This is quite simply sheer hatred," she told the judge.

"Mr. Love is entitled to his views ... but his right to distribute them is not unlimited."

Court heard how over the course of months, Mr. Love has undertaken an ongoing campaign, targeting ethnic and religious groups including Muslims, Jews, Asians, Blacks, Roma, East Asians and other groups.

He sent letters to the offices of MPs such as Judy Sgro and former immigration minister Elinor Caplan, as well as politicians in his home municipality of Mississauga. Also targeted were the Simon Wiesenthal Centre for Holocaust Studies and York Regional Police Chief Armand La Barge, court heard.

Charges against Mr. Love were laid in York Region, Peel Region, Toronto and Ottawa. An agreement to hear all the charges in York Region resulted in the guilty plea being entered here. Mr. Love, 44, has been in custody since his arrest on charges in York Region in April.

Mr. Love appeared unfazed by the lengthy arraignment he stood through, or descriptions of his hate-filled messages, which included a expletive-ridden criticism of Chief La Barge's efforts to bolster race relations.

Prior to sentencing, Mr. Love stood in the prisoner's box and delivered a rambling dissertation in which he criticized "political correctness" and Canadians' fears of expressing views on immigration and race relations.

"I am of the belief people in this country are now afraid not just to do anything ... (but) to say anything about immigration," he told the judge. "It would be as if we were engaging in some kind of conspiracy just to discuss this sort of thing."

Often referring to himself in the third person, Mr. Love acknowledged he did "overstep the boundaries of good taste". But he insisted he was merely speaking his mind.

"Brad Love at least said it," Mr. Love said. "All he did was package up his thoughts and feelings in the mail and send them to the proper political authorities.

"Once the government comes for Brad Love, who will be next?"

Justice Gorewich accepted the joint submission on sentencing, noting he did not necessarily agree with it.

He said Mr. Love had engaged in a prolonged campaign that could enflame racial tensions.

"You used your intellect in a way that was as negative as possible and could well have a ripple effect that could be catastrophic in many communities," the judge said in passing sentence.


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To: bets
I'm aware of it and despite the best efforts of many people to stop this, it has gone too far. What the next ten years look like I shudder to think.
21 posted on 08/02/2003 5:54:55 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: demlosers
"He said Mr. Love had engaged in a prolonged campaign that could enflame racial tensions.

"You used your intellect in a way that was as negative as possible and could well have a ripple effect that could be catastrophic in many communities," the judge said in passing sentence."

Like their politicians don't engage in hate campaigns all the time.
22 posted on 08/02/2003 6:06:21 PM PDT by freekitty
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To: OpusatFR
Your search - Nostical Turpitude - did not match any documents.

Just fer fun
23 posted on 08/02/2003 6:08:54 PM PDT by steplock (www.FOCUS.GOHOTSPRINGS.com)
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To: OpusatFR
Found it - you piqued my interest and I HAD to see what this was! :>)

Gnostical Turpitude:

Cincinnatus C. is condemned to death by beheading for "gnostical turpitude." an imaginary crime that defies definition.
24 posted on 08/02/2003 6:11:10 PM PDT by steplock (www.FOCUS.GOHOTSPRINGS.com)
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To: steplock
The title is ~Invitation to a Beheading~.

Read also, ~We~, for a very chilling future.

25 posted on 08/02/2003 6:13:58 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: demlosers
"It has a menacing, quasi-violent dimension to it," she said.

I swear that I couldn't make up anything this funny. But on the off chance that anyone out there has a glimmer of a clue as to what "quasi-violent" might actually MEAN, please post it.

I suspect she may be conducting a thought experiment similar to the famous "cat in the box" of quantum physics- that is, the cat is "quasi-alive" unless and until an observer opens the box and collapses the wave function...

26 posted on 08/02/2003 6:20:55 PM PDT by RANGERAIRBORNE
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To: KantianBurke
"if the Left obtains power again, FR will shortly thereafter be labeled a "hate site" and promptly shut down."

No, if the Left comes to power in this country again, shutting down of Conservative (or Libertarian) Websites will be the absolute LEAST of our worries.

I really honestly believe that a Leftist sweep of the Presidency and Congress would destroy this country (probably not without a fight- but we can't afford another Civil War right now).

27 posted on 08/02/2003 6:24:39 PM PDT by RANGERAIRBORNE
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To: kcar
So happy to read this was done in Canada. Thought it was USA for a second.

My first response: Oh -- Canada... WHEW!!"

28 posted on 08/02/2003 6:40:28 PM PDT by TXnMA (No Longer!!! -- and glad to be back home in God's Gountry!!)
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To: kcar
So happy to read this was done in Canada. Thought it was USA for a second.

My first response: "Oh -- Canada... WHEW!!"

29 posted on 08/02/2003 6:41:09 PM PDT by TXnMA (No Longer!!! -- and glad to be back home in God's Gountry!!)
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To: TXnMA
Hey! How'd that first one escape from the "Preview Box"?
30 posted on 08/02/2003 6:44:20 PM PDT by TXnMA (No Longer!!! -- and glad to be back home in God's Gountry!!)
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To: demlosers
Then there is a Major Keyvan Nourhaghagi. "Iranian..... Refugee Tortured numerously by Toronto Police". The Major has a grief against Canada. Google will get his website.

I got it by using nourhaghagi.Iranseek.com Beautifully done in green and red, his site pours out invective and obscenities against Canadian judges and lawyers( I go with some of it). He has had run ins with Canadian police evidently.

The question needs to be asked, since I read the Toronto papers, why can the Major get away with so-called hate and Love can not?

The court gets Peter Libra's gold medal of derision. Not to be pinned on the breast though. Canada's so-called hate laws are merely political tools. The evidence lies in the non charges against the College activists. They violently spat venom at Daniel Pipes when he lectured in Toronto. It was the police who first warned Pipes though. Re possibly causing a disturbance in identifying terrorism sleepers in Western society.

31 posted on 08/02/2003 6:50:11 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: tet68
"Once the government comes for Brad Love, who will be next?" Who? Who? one count of possession of a weapon dangerous to the public.

Coming soon, to a courtroom near you.

32 posted on 08/02/2003 6:54:09 PM PDT by Aarchaeus
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To: Peter Libra
Regarding my information. Major Keyvan Nourhaghighi. Used it myself afterward- re iranseek.com. Not to be paranoid, but it is not there now. Was about three weeks ago. I simply put in his name only and found much of his original diatribe against Canada on Lycos.UK.Co.

Congratulations to the Major, using the old country's site. I do not agree with what he says, but I will defend his right to say it- a dangerous tactic in ye old Dominion of Canada.

Yep, English and Arabic and all.

33 posted on 08/02/2003 7:05:51 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: demlosers
So, he's going to jail for sending letters to his elected officials saying he disagreed with them. Boil it down, as far as I can tell, and that's it.

That he is a racist takes nothing away from his right to send letters to whatever officials he wishes, expressing whatever nonviolent thoughts he has, whether the tyrants in Canada choose to ignore said right or not.

Well, I knew democracy was near dead in Canada...this seals it.
34 posted on 08/02/2003 7:14:13 PM PDT by swilhelm73
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To: ambrose
"Mr. Love is entitled to his views ... but his right to distribute them is not unlimited."

That is really scary.

"You used your intellect in a way that was as negative as possible and could well have a ripple effect that could be catastrophic in many communities," the judge said in passing sentence

Wonder what this guy was saying. Was it far- fetched nonsense, or was is 'dangerous' truth?

35 posted on 08/02/2003 7:16:21 PM PDT by BenLurkin (Socialism is slavery.)
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To: Az Joe
"He should have hated straight, white, male, christians. I think they reward you for that."

It ok to hate someone if they are straight and conservative. Skin color or religion doesn't matter, ask Clarence Thomas and Michael Medved and Matt Drudge.

36 posted on 08/02/2003 7:18:41 PM PDT by feedback doctor
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To: KantianBurke
Naaah.

This is the highest sentence that has been handed down in Canada for hate mail

In the U.S. this would be plea bargined down to illegal telemarketing or sending an unwanted nasty gram.

37 posted on 08/02/2003 7:23:42 PM PDT by SSN558 (Be on the lookout for Black White-Supremacists)
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To: breakem
we're next. Is there any faster way to turn an a#$hole into a hero?

This case is wrong on so many levels. One of the most offensive things is that it reveals that the Canadian government has absolutely no faith in its citizens. They think that some dolt spewing neo-Nazi filth will somehow corrupt everybody and turn them into neo-Nazi a#$holes. They think the average citizen has no common sense and no decency, and that they are so stupid they will believe anything some demagogue says.

It is a very dangerous thing when the government enforces some official view of the truth at gunpoint. It is ironic that the left is generally agnositc about questions of truth (right and wrong being archaic social constructs), and yet they want to enforce laws against some dissenters. Dissent, like all other claims, can be true or false. Someone who dissents can want something better than the status-quo; the dissenter can also want something much worse than the status-quo.

The problem is that when you have done what most leftists have done and reject truth or falsehood as a standard of value, you can only deal with people on a basis of subjectivism. Thus, the standard becomes whether or not something is offensive (usually based on who finds the matter offensive). Of course, what one finds offensive depends on one's view of what is right and wrong -- since the left cannot use "judgemental" ideas about right and wrong, they cop out and accept their feelings about what is offensive as being the universal standard of value. Depending on their feelings, one controversial idea might be deemed offensive and banned. Another equally controversial idea might be championed by the left and people who find it offensive might be censored.

Ironically, when mere offensive speech is rendered a "hate crime," this eliminates all possibility of civilized discourse -- whoever holds power can enforce his views of what is offensive on everyone else. In the unlikely event that some lunatic like Mr. Love gets into power and enforces his views, by what standard does the left expect anyone to oppose him?

38 posted on 08/02/2003 7:24:50 PM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (Lurking since 1997!)
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To: bets
Re: post #19 - bad link - can you post one that works?

Thanks-

39 posted on 08/02/2003 7:25:05 PM PDT by StopGlobalWhining (Vote Bush 04 - Extend "assault weapons" ban - Support Open Borders - UN Global Governance -Kyoto USA)
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To: kcar
This IS ALSO America...You just have to pierce the veil of lies and silence from the mass media, and follow legal cases in Mass., CT, RI, ME, and NH (in the last 5-7 years there has been a flood of IDENTICAL cases). www.thefire.org is a good starting point on the campus struggle against thought crimes.
40 posted on 08/02/2003 8:00:36 PM PDT by CaptIsaacDavis
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