[XEHRpa]

One thing's for sure: There can be no moral code in a situation where everybody is "free" to make up his own as he goes along.

Directly contradicted by the first two hundred years of our american experiment in a constitutional republic.

Wasn't it Ben Franklin who said, "This nation will cease to be great when it ceases to be good?" Part of the recipe for American success isn't just the "freedom" aspect, but the "responsibility" aspect. I and others take the view that the responsibility aspect is linked to a desire to do good, to please God.

I suppose you would argue that the responsibility need can be satisfied if people want to do good for "the society at large," rather than to God. My problem with that is that the flawed human perceptions of "doing good for society" too often roll into totalitarian models of accomplishing it.

I think what makes it all work, in America's case, is humility before God. I think arrogance is the enemy of our great society and believe that, without striving to comport with God's Law, our arrogance goes unchecked, and the wheels come off.

[XEHRpa]

Well, if it wasn't Franklin who said it, it might have been Tocqueville

[tpaine]

I suppose you would argue that the responsibility need can be satisfied if people want to do good for "the society at large," rather than to God.
-pa-


You suppose wrong.
People are driven to 'do good' by self interest in having their peers do good onto them in return.
The golden rule works in a society ruled by constitutional law.

Your 'Gods law' can compliment our constitutional law, but it cannot be supreme to it.