That's a very simplistic, even confused, comment on the thrust of what I said, but if it makes you happy...
and presented no moral framework for America.
'America'? You mean as a framework for our republican form of government? Right on. It didn't.
Just a quick question: whose depictions of history do you read?
No doubt the same ones you read, spinner, - although we obviously arrive at different conclusions from the same info.
I'd suggest you look into your:
"excessive capacity and urge to become identified with a tribe, nation, church or cause, and to espouse its credo uncritically and enthusiastically, even if its tenets are contrary to reason, devoid of self-interest and detrimental to the claims of self-preservation."
-Koestler-
Business as usual, it seems.
"excessive capacity and urge to become identified with a tribe, nation, church or cause, and to espouse its credo uncritically and enthusiastically, even if its tenets are contrary to reason, devoid of self-interest and detrimental to the claims of self-preservation." -- Koestler
Good quote. Jesus Christ said something very similar to those who would make the above mistakes of trusting man's rules (including Koestler's apparent kind of self interest): "''They worship me in vain; their teachings are but rules taught by men.' You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to the traditions of men.' And he said to them: 'You have a fine way of setting aside the commands of God in order to observe your own traditions!"
(I.e., you seem to be stating that Christianity did not convey morality and wisdom to Americans which has been vitally important to our republican government, whether in its foundation, structure, or maintenance.)
I soberly suggest you read more from such political theorists as those most credited by John Adams and Thomas Jefferson, for our republic, including Algernon Sidney and John Locke, instead of the writing of revisionists who spent their impressionable years steeped in Marxism. Also, the writings of the other founders, are preferable to the Koestlers, Rands, etc. of the world. Why not go to the authentic founders our republic, instead of 20th Century Marx-reactionaries? Of those two groups, which were the ones who were there and who actually did it?
Here are citations with links:
Defence of the Constitutions of Government of the United States of America
(An aside in this thread, but very germane to FreeRepublic.com.)