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To: Doctor Stochastic; general_re; betty boop
Betty asks again:

What was it about Hitler and/or this setting that could work people up into such a frenzy, bordering on mass hysteria, that could make them forget about their own supposed moral values? What dynamics could produce such an effect?
-BB-

Implying of course, that it is the peoples lack of REAL moral values.

"Combine a bunch of anti-Semitism, populist appeal, inflation about 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 marks to the pre-war mark, continuing Versailles payments, unemployment, rioting the streets, and a bit of chrisma from an orator such as Hitler, the Nazis get a much better chance."
-Doc-

Your answer doc, empathizes cicumstances, which agreed, have much to do with ~when~ these events occur.
But only Koestler says that the real problem is an inate 'urge' to fanatical devotion.

People have an inborn desire, [a tribal instinct?] to 'belong', to seek a strong leader.
Pandering to this 'group think' motivation is the opposite of what we, as a free society, should be teaching.

We should be encouraging independant thinking, not devotion to a cause.

"The continuous disasters of man's history are mainly due to his excessive capacity and urge to become identified with a tribe, nation, church or cause, and to espouse its credo uncritically and enthusiastically, even if its tenets are contrary to reason, devoid of self-interest and detrimental to the claims of self-preservation. We are thus driven to the unfashionable conclusion that the trouble with our species is not an excess of aggression, but an excess capacity for fanatical devotion." -Arthur Koestler-

476 posted on 08/18/2003 9:49:16 AM PDT by tpaine ( I'm trying to be Mr Nice Guy, but politics keep getting in me way. ArnieRino for Governator!)
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To: tpaine
Implying of course, that it is the peoples lack of REAL moral values.

Forgive me, tpaine, but people who stand by and watch the murder of helpless innocents objectively lack REAL moral values.

479 posted on 08/18/2003 10:53:00 AM PDT by betty boop (Bohr is brutally realistic in epistemological terms. -- Kafatos & Nadeau)
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