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To: muawiyah
I have studied the Greek originals. It is my forte. I dare you to find one account written by the Greeks themselves from any city state in which the Helot is identified as a "slave".
19 posted on 08/02/2003 7:39:17 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
You are asking him to recognize and repeat a truth that goes against his trojan-horse agenda. The Koran, on the other hand, tells him he can lie to deceive the infidels.

Sorry, my friend. The Koran will win this battle of the black and twisted heart.

Some defend iSLAM because they are nothing more than quavering cowards.
Some defend iSLAM because they think it makes them sound superior.
Some defend iSLAM because they think their moral relativism will protect them.
Some defend iSLAM because they think appeasement will protect them.
Some defend iSLAM because they are ignorant of iSLAM’s consistent bloody swath through human history.
Some defend iSLAM because they bought the lies of hired American PR firms.
Some defend iSLAM because they are greased with Saudi oil money.
Some defend iSLAM because they like its fight against Christianity.
Some defend iSLAM because they like its fight against the Jews.
Some defend iSLAM because they like its fight against that other guy’s religion.
Some defend iSLAM because they are sleeper elements of a fifth column in our country.
Some defend iSLAM because it is their faith and they will be murdered by their ‘brothers’ if they leave.
Some defend iSLAM because they are misogynists and the cult gives them what they want.
Some defend iSLAM because they are as primitive as it is.
Some defend iSLAM because they like its fight against America (because their turd-world nations are so far beneath America).
Some defend iSLAM because it’s the popular thing to do.
I swear, some of them would defend the Aztec cannibals or the Thuggee cult if those religions of peace were alive today!

At any rate, iSLAM intends to be the death of America and freedom and every other religion on the planet.

None survive when freedom fails;
Good men rot in filthy jails,
While those who cried “Appease! Appease!”
Are hanged by those they tried to please.

Human civilization had better wake up soon and get as serious about its survival as the seventh-century savages of Islam are about our annihilation!
SLEEPING AMERICANS ARE EASIER TO KILL.
Do not be lulled to sleep by the Religion of Peace defenders.

Click here and never forget the face of Islam and what it wants for you infidels.

21 posted on 08/02/2003 11:32:36 PM PDT by Thorondir
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To: Destro
A rose is a rose no matter what name......

If slaves were called Helots in Sparta, that really doesn't change the nature of the institution.

I know there are those who argue that once any slaves became "attached to the land" their lot was improved, but that was more likely a consequence of a general improvement in the local economy at the time.

Abortion and slavery have a lot in common, and one of those things is the attempt to create euphemisms to hide the fact that the victims have lost all civil liberties ordinarily accorded free men and women.

32 posted on 08/03/2003 7:56:16 AM PDT by muawiyah
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