Woman Accuses Nun of Sexual Abuse

FOX News ^ | 8.01.2003 | AP

[nopardons]

YIKES !

I have read about some of these things, but NOT that they occurred in the USA. Canada and Ireland, were the countries that got the most publicity. Thanks for the info and keep up the good work. This stuff needs to be exposed !

[sinkspur]

You don't think anybody can be celibate. I do.

Let's just agree to disagree. Good night.

[Bluntpoint]

"Ghandi and the Dali Lama have said as much."

Bill and Hillary could make a similar claim about being democrats and connect that with their percieved great acts.

[Bluntpoint]

Take care.

[ladysusan]

Like what? Service?

No, sinkspur. Like a profound disconnect from the real, sexually grounded lives of real men and women. Biological life begins with sexuality no matter how psychotically certain clergy wish to deny that simple fact. This is God's plan and design, like it or not, take it or leave it. Love and death, sinkspur... love or die. God's command. This is not an abstraction on the genetic nor the psychological planes.

When the ground of all physical life is simply denied, it leaves an emotional and psychological, and if I may, a spiritual vacuum. This is then filled with all manner of archaic and chaotic fantasies about sexuality and the procreative function, as I stated earlier. Where infantile fantasy holds sway there can be no normal emotional and psychological development. This invites the development of other expressions in its place. Some are altruistic, some are decidedly not. The occasional saint you cite who succeedes in holding off orgasm for their entire life is the exception and not the rule. (I have heard that Mother Teresa was a true ***** to the women who worked with her, by the way. I tend to believe it. After all, what was it Jung said? "Fanaticism is only compensated doubt.")

[danmar]

Or we have a women coming forward with the truth.

After 18+ Years?! That's a very long time to think about it and make it stick...

$25.7 million has already been offered to others because?

I presume it was "do not rock the boat hush money" type of thing! Whether the Catholic Church was/was not aware of any malfeasence within it's ranks, it is besides the point.
It is all about the "IMAGE" of the church respective to it's followers. To preserve an immaculate image, it is worth any price, versus lenghtly court battles for the right vs wrong.

Do not get me wrong, I am not even member of the Catholic Church, nor am I a defender/legal counsel but the whole story as told does't pass the smell test. See also my #59, and #66 postings!

[ladysusan]

Email me and I will point you to some web resources that may make your hair fall out. Bring your Rogaine.

[fatima]

ladysusan,Are you talking about the now,I am female?

[Bluntpoint]

I have dealt with people, not seeking to sue or gain publicity, who have have suffered similar abuses, not related to the church, who took this long and longer to unburden themselves.

[nopardons]

Thanks ... you have FREEPmail. :-)

[Bluntpoint]

I have known for over 26 years of a person who was sexually molested by her brother.

Her parents still do not know.

If she would come forward today and tell her parents, they could look upon her claim with incredulousness.

But the claim would still be true.

[sinkspur]

Like a profound disconnect from the real, sexually grounded lives of real men and women.

Are you saying that sexuality must be expressed to be sexuality? I was celibate for nearly 30 years, for the sake of pursuing the priesthood, and it didn't destroy my "grounded life."

Get your nose out of Jung and into dedicated lives. There are many who are physically incapable of sexual relations, but are fully "sexual" beings, nonetheless, in every other facet of their lives.

I admit that celibacy is exceptional, but this doesn't negate its value in the lives of those who pursue it.

[wardaddy]

Isn't there a movie coming out on that soon....I shame myself to admit it but I heard about it on NPR yesterday morning.

[fatima]

Bluntpoint,Stats please.

[nopardons]

Another one ?

[BlackVeil]

The cases which you cite, about harsh treatment of unwed mothers, is not an especially Catholic issue. This was the norm in "homes" for girls in "moral danger" - they could be sentenced to reformatory for having being sexually active (in many cases, for having been sexually abused.) It was no different in Protestant-run homes, and possibly somewhat worse in state-run institutions in places like New Zealand, Australia, England, right up until the early 1970s.

Now, these things do not happen, and unwed teenage mothers are encouraged to keep their children. There is now a second generation of children growing up in such households, where illegitimacy, welfare dependancy, alcoholism, and sexual promiscuity are the norm. There is no simple answer to these problems.

[fatima]

Bluntpoint,Something is happening where.freepmail me if you want to talk conf.I will give you my private email .

[Bluntpoint]

In this one archdiocese a $25.7 million settlement to the more than 200 victims who have previously filed suits.

Country wide the number is in the billions.

What do those "stats" suggest to you?

[danmar]

Danmar, Denial runs exceeding deep when sexuality , religion, and one's daughter are concerned.

True, but in this case back in 1974 that girl was only 4 Years old! Are you telling me that that girl's parents were in denial for 18+ Years?...and took them that long to right the wrongs? Hard to belive it!

I am no Catholic, nor a CC defender (see also my postings #59,#66 for reference), but when somebody does something to my daughter (mine is 5 Years old)church or otherwise, I will be on their butts like dirty diapers until I get satisfactory results.
No denial or other feelings in this corner as far as my daughter is concerned!

[Bluntpoint]

The girl was in 4th grade not 4 years old.