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Poraz beats the anti-religious drum (Jewish Anti-Semite Alert!)
Jerusalem Post ^ | Aug. 1, 2003 | Isi Leibler

Posted on 08/01/2003 2:47:09 PM PDT by Alouette

Avraham Poraz, our secular "Zionist" minister of the interior, is a modern man untrammelled by bigotry and superstition. His revulsion to religious values is directed against his own people's faith, Judaism; one does not recall him expressing offensive remarks about the religious rituals of other people.

His contempt for Jewish ritual was manifested even before his appointment as interior minister. How else would one judge an Israeli politician congratulating the Dutch government for moving toward a ban on Jewish ritual slaughter - shehita? The ban was never imposed because, unlike Poraz, the Dutch authorities concluded that such a move would cause anguish to the vast majority of Dutch Jews and be regarded in many quarters as an anti-Semitic initiative.

On being elected, Poraz moved rapidly to dispel any suggestion that he would abide by the understanding between Shinui and the National Religious Party to make every effort to resolve differences in the religious arena by consensus. Neither party was to try to unilaterally alter the status quo in religious affairs, yet Poraz's forays into the vexed area of conversions have been anything but consensual. For example, his announcement that those undergoing Orthodox conversions in Israel would no longer automatically qualify for citizenship caused an instant furor. By this act he created a rare instance in which Reform, Conservative and Orthodox Zionists joined in denouncing his initiative for undermining one of the pillars of the Jewish state and Zionism.

After a bitter debate, Prime Minister Ariel Sharon intervened and overruled Poraz's edict. However, Poraz made it clear where his preferences lay by announcing his intention to grant automatic citizenship to children of foreign workers. He followed this by indulging in some cheap populism - granting citizenship to foreign footballers invited onto Israeli teams - despite a recommendation to the contrary by the attorney-general.

Last month our enlightened minister of the interior announced a new initiative which smacks of racism. He disqualified the Bnei Menashe, halachicly converted Indians claiming to trace their Jewish ancestry back to the 10 lost tribes of Israel, from inclusion under the Law of Return.

AS HILLEL Halkin, himself a secular Jew, recently observed: "Poraz is one of many secular Israelis who deep in [his] heart, thinks so little of Judaism and has such a low opinion of its attractions" - that he has an "equally low estimate of anyone wishing to belong to it as his faith, and with it, the Jewish people as his family."

When Shinui and the NRP joined the Sharon government, there was widespread anticipation and hope that both parties would bring about a change in the explosive relationship between the Orthodox and the non-observant which, over the years, has created so much damage to the social fabric of life in Israel. One of the key players in this area would, by definition, have to be the minister of the interior. But far from easing the polarization between religious and non-observant, Poraz has deliberately inflamed the situation and intensified the tensions.

In a move breaching his party's undertakings, Poraz has spearheaded action to commercialize Shabbat, and on Passover he denied individual municipalities the right to prohibit the sale of bread.

The man whose role is intended to strengthen unity has accelerated polarization and emerged as infinitely more bigoted than any of his predecessors, including those from Shas.

Revelling in provocative statements to offend traditional Jews, he went on radio during the Fast of Tammuz to say that Jews concerned about the destruction of the Temple nearly 2,000 years ago were being absurd. Such Poraz outbursts have become regular events, and many people now simply ignore them. But their impact on a society still reeling from post-Zionist indoctrination should not be underestimated.

Poraz is clearly unaware that a people that belittles its past is destabilizing its future. Every scoff, ridicule and abuse of Jewish values contributes toward the undermining of our people's identity and history.

Poraz also serves as a role model for ignorant youngsters who regard his foul remarks about Jewish tradition and heritage as slick.

I cannot recollect a senior minister who has behaved so disgracefully, who has so systematically debased and offended Jewish tradition and thereby a large proportion of the Jewish people. We are entitled to expect a modicum of civility from our ministers. In any other Western society, a minister indulging in such offensive behavior toward his constituents would have been sacked.

Shinui head Tommy Lapid told me on a number of occasions that his prime aim was to revoke the preferential haredi privileges extorted by political leverage. But beyond that he insisted that he had every intention of respecting and cooperating harmoniously with all Israelis, including religious Zionists, whom he admired.

Lapid must therefore insist that Avraham Poraz control his tongue. Sharon must do the same. And if his minister continues to behave in such an irresponsibly offensive manner, he must show him the door.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; Israel; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: atheist; fanatic; israel; jewhater; ownworstenemy; shinui
If President Bush has promised to guarantee the right of Israel to "exist as a Jewish State" the Israelis first have to get rid of idiots like this moron Poraz.
1 posted on 08/01/2003 2:47:10 PM PDT by Alouette
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self-hating Jew alert
2 posted on 08/01/2003 2:48:17 PM PDT by Alouette (Every politician should live next door to a pimp, so he can have someone to look up to.)
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To: Alouette
Interesting read, thanks.
3 posted on 08/01/2003 2:50:44 PM PDT by exnavy
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To: Alouette
the Israelis first have to get rid of idiots like this moron Poraz

And they also have to get rid of Sharon, who has now gone completely bonkers, thinking he has grabbed Israel for his personal little fiefdom. I hear he's hunting down the Jewish underground, using the GSS, that little Gestapo clone.

4 posted on 08/01/2003 2:55:02 PM PDT by Cachelot (~ In waters near you ~)
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To: Cachelot
Sharon may be toast. Read this:

Yoav Yitzchak: Sharon To Resign By First Half 2004

Aaron Lerner Date: 1 August 2003

Investigative reporter Yoav Yitzchak wrote today in Ma'ariv that Prime Minister Ariel Sharon can be expected to be forced to resign in the first half of 2004 due to the investigations of various scandals associated with illegal campaign funds.

Yizchak writes that the investigators already have enough evidence to indict and convict the prime minister and his sons. Attorney General Rubenstein would have normally followed the practice he did with Ehud Barak, pushing
off the legal process in order not to interfere with the "diplomatic process", but this time Rubenstein has other interests: his own supreme court appointment. Rubenstein already announced he is leaving his post on 15 January and must clear his desk - including the Sharon cases. Not finishing the cases would be expected to block his possible appointment to the Supreme Court.

Dr. Aaron Lerner, Director IMRA (Independent Media Review & Analysis)
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5 posted on 08/01/2003 3:02:07 PM PDT by LarryM
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6 posted on 08/01/2003 3:04:32 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: Alouette
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If President Bush has promised to guarantee the right of Israel to "exist as a Jewish State" the Israelis first have to get rid of idiots like this moron Poraz.

I wonder if Poraz has the religion of socialism instead?

7 posted on 08/01/2003 6:57:01 PM PDT by UbIwerks
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After the last (Israeli) elections Sharon surrounded himself with 'yes' men. Those who would agree with the implementation of this 'Road Map.' As for these election charges, this has Peres fingerprints all over them. Why is it every time Likud gets in office this same stuff raises it's head? Barak was Clintoon's friend (pick) and the stuff that went on during that election would make Nixon blush. Benjamin Netanyahu even called it a 'poor mans watergate.' How's that for a shot across the bow? One for the record anyway.

And Poraz, well what can be said about him? Some people just hate Torah. Jezebel hates Torah too.

Shinui head Tommy Lapid told me on a number of occasions that his prime aim was to revoke the preferential haredi privileges extorted by political leverage.

Another Torah hater. The bonds between Issachar and Zebulon cannot be so easily dissolved. This article doesn't even come close to describing the forces at work against the charedi.

My prayer (my adopted prayer) for the charedi and the settlers in The Land...

From the Tachanun:

Guardian of Israel 

"O Guardian of Israel, 
Protect the Remnant of Israel,
Let Israel not be destroyed, 
Those who proclaim, 'Hear O Israel' "

"Guardian of the Unique Nation, 
Protect the Remnant of the Unique Nation,
Let the Unique Nation not be destroyed, 
Those who proclaim the Unity of Your Name,
Our G-d, the One G-d."

"Guardian of the Holy Nation, 
Protect the Remnant of the Holy Nation,
Let the holy nation not be destroyed, 
Whose members proclaim three "Holy's"
To the Holy One."

...for we are abundantly sated with scorn...

8 posted on 08/02/2003 9:36:22 PM PDT by Jeremiah Jr (Free Your Mind...5:15 DEBARIM)
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To: Jeremiah Jr
preferential haredi privileges

Yeah, just as demanding the same amount of assistance as the secular public receives, instead of meekly agreeing to accept the status of "second class citizens."

Lapis spits on the and on all Israelis by rewarding the Israeli equivalent of the likes of Barbra Striesand, Martin Sheen, Janeane Garofalo and other millionaire celebrities with taxpayer cash to produce "art works" that are the Israeli equivalent of "Corpus Christi" and "Crucifix Immersed in a Bucket of Urine."

9 posted on 08/02/2003 9:55:53 PM PDT by Alouette (Every politician should live next door to a pimp, so he can have someone to look up to.)
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