Posted on 08/01/2003 2:05:33 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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Actually I spend rather a lot of time fighting the child-sex industry as well.
There is no need for these countries to be doing what they do with their kids. And no reason at ALL for OUR corporations to be doing business there .
We and our children just do not NEED that many cheap toys and t-shirts.
Has it occurred to people that maybe Christmas wouldn't be the commercial mess that it is if children did not expect a mountain of cheaply produced thngs from SE Asia every year? I simply will not have a Mattel toy in the house.
As far as what these other countries do, it is nothing new, but that does not make it right. This is just war-lordism in the traditional sense: corruption and greed ensure that a few people have WAY too much at the top, some folks manage pretty well, and the vast majority of the population suffers due to indifference and mismanagement. All too often that vast majority is kids and the elderly. Life in these places is very cheap.
Tia
Tia, you are a classy lady with high standards and morals. Unfortunately, there are a lot of people on FR who do not have morals or ethics or standards to guide them in life or in business. To compare what you said to the "Beast" is rather unfortunate to say the least. Keep up the fight!
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Thank you for the kind words.
I try to go through life and not hurt anyone who doesn't need it.
Sometimes some of the people here really bother me: they seem to be the very embodiment of the greedy, uncaring Republican. I don't think you have to be that way to be a conservative.
Thanks again.
Freegards!
Tia
I think trade with any nation that violates the human and civil rights of their citizens is a dark stain on America, there can be no "free trade" unless there is freedom, we should work tirelessly at ending the practice.
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I agree with you Luis. Especially the part about not making rich communists ( Isn't that an oxymoron? LOL! )
FReegards,
Tia
If a nation is free and bases it's freedom on the same Republican principles of individual liberty and responsibility, unalienable rights that are endowed by the creator, etc...who open their markets to us in the same manner, then there doesn't need to be protective tarriffs. As I said, the closer they come to those that ideal, the better and the less the tariff.
IMHO, that is not a re-definition of the free market...it is the original definition of it as it was meant to be.
I am not advancing a tarriff to protect jobs, but to protect the free market from corruption If we trade with nations that also have a true free market, then I am perfectly content to let the market pressures regulate things. The free people in those other nations, who have equal access to our goods, and who have the liberty to make something of themselves, will raise themselves up and as their income, earnings and standard of living rise...the free competitiveness of the market will regulate things as they were meant to be regulated.
But that is not what we have...sadly, either here or elsewhere. Here, our own free market has been bastardized by more and more governmental control. Offshore, far too many of our trading partners are even far worse and most of them place significant tarriffs and controls on what we can export there. Either course, either their falling short of a true free market, or their restrictions on our own products, should result in our own measures.
These issues of allowing non-free market based economies to freely compete in our free market, and allowing almost full trade on our part with nations that severely restrict us in return represent a double barrell whammy that is destroying our free market and rendering it something completely different..a almost fascist based market IMHO.
I believe we can start with the foreign trade with countries who represent the anti-thesis of what we are supposed to represent...based upon the principles I have outlined. I believe that would have significant political traction amongst the people...but that many large corporations would fight it.
I also believe that with potential agressor nations like China, whose market represents the opposite of ours as far as individual liberty goes, that closing access based on that and on national security would also have traction...and would be clearly the right thing to do.
From there, we have to roll back what has happened in this nation with excessive regulation and governmental control.
A huge bill to fill, one that has taken many decades to come into being...but one we MUST start to address as well if we have any hope of retaining a true free market over the long term that extends the propserity and life style that we have benefited from on to our posterity.
Sorry for the length...just my two cents. Actually this long post is more like my four-bits, LOL!
No more than Democrats mean all Americans, or Republicans mean all Americans, or the NAACP means all negroes.
To say something against the NAACP is not meant as a rascist comment against all negroes, however the people in the NAACP would like to spin it that way. Ask Alan Keyes about that one, he and other conservative negroes are regularly denounced as "Uncle Tom's" because they dare stand up to the likes of the NAACP and other liberal organizations because of the hidden agendas of those organizations that tend to exploit Americans of that race.
A good read in this regard is Alan Keyes, "Masters of the Dream".
Those folks like Alan Keyes are couragous, patriotic Americans, irrespective of what they are labeled as by those organizations.
I believe it is meant that way...that's my understanding.
There is no doubt that there are very liberal Jewish people, with significant economic power, who have their own agenda. There are similar people, who agree with those folks in their aims and designs who are of other "stripes" as well.
Anyhow, please do enjoy Alan Keye's book...it is very eye opening and enlighteninh as far as I am concerned about how the liberal establishment has created an economic trap for black Americans and how they use them and exploit them to their own political gain.
The same principles are being applied by the world governance/globalist/Zionist ... call it what you will ... movement on many different segments of our own society IMHO.
Perhaps you can tell me why these 2 noahide.com flyers were NOT allowed to be posted.
The various emphases are mine.
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Campaign to abolish X-mas celebration by gentiles
Noahide Mivtzaiim materials now available. Anyone interested in obtaining holiday fliers (@ $.25 each) to distribute to their non-Jewish associates, please contact Shmuel or Aaron for more info:
[phone number withheld] www.noahide.com
Why Torah obligates all Jews in this campaign:
"...according to the known Jewish ruling that Christians are idol worshippers." (Likkutei Sichos 37:198)
A gentile...is liable for the death penalty...if he has invented a religious holiday for himself...The general principle is we do not allow them to make new religious rituals and to make 'mitzvahs' for themselves by their own devices. Rather they may either become a Ger Tzeddek and accept all the Mitvahs; or he (the Noahide) should stand fast in his Torah (the seven Noahide Laws) without adding or diminishing...and if he does make some new 'mitzvah,' we lash him, punish him, and inform him that he is obligated with the death penalty for this..."
(Rambam Mishne Torah - Hilchos Melachim 10:9)
"...it is however obvious that if it will be perceived by them (the nations), also the matter of the negation of shituf, until they even have some recognition of the Unity of Hashem - that 'there is nothing else besides Him'; this will add both in their carefulness and meticulousness in fulfilling the seven Noahide Laws [with all of their ramifications!] and also in their aiding of Jewish people in all of their matters pertaining to Yiddishkeit and all of their needs in general..."
(Likkutei Sichos 25: YudTes Kislev)
"Any person who has already worked successfully in this area should try to influence other Jews to do likewise. Resistance should not deter one when attempting to influence a further individual to accept upon himself the task of disseminating the Noahide Laws amongst the nations."
(Hisvaduyos 5750 2:18-19)
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2nd flyer
Campaign to abolish X-mas continues
SPECIAL SALE!!!
Fliers now available at reduced price:
$0.15 per flier
[phone number withheld]/www.noahide.com
More reasons the Torah obligates all Jews in this campaign:
"...There no longer exists even a remote doubt of any danger involved with spreading the Noahide Laws...". Consequently, the Jewish people must now become totally involved to the maximum of their capacity and effort to fulfill the Torah obligation to teach and transform all gentiles throughout the world. Anyone who seeks to exempt himself from this mitzvah, claiming he is already busy with other mitzvahs (ahavas Yisroel, etc.), is, in effect, throwing off the yoke of heaven. "This is the opposite of Torah, and is neither a benefit for him nor for those [Jews] whom he is helping -and utilizing -to exempt himself from kabbalas ol malchus shamayim [accepting the yoke of heaven]!"
(Lubavitcher Rebbe, Sefer Hisvaduyos, Purim, 1987)
"Moshe Rabbeinu was commanded from the mouth of the Al-mighty to force all the inhabitants of the earth to accept the commandments that were commanded upon the descendants of Noah."
(Rambam, Mishneh Torah, Laws of Kings 8:10)
Christianity, moreover, is absolute idolatry, not shittuf (partnership of deities), based on at least two of its beliefs (held almost universally by the estimated 1.9 billion Christians worldwide):
(1) That the other two members of the "trinity" are of equal power and stature to Hashem (G-d forbid!), and
(2) that the physical world is primarily under the dominion of the Satan, who is in an actual state of rebellion against G-d (G-d forbid!). Christianity, therefore, does not fit the definition of shittuf given by the Lubavitcher Rebbe
("Mayim Rabim," Sefer Hama'amarim vol. 1, pp. 51-62; 1957).
The Rambam, indeed, officially rules in three places that Christianity is idolatry AND THUS FORBIDDEN TO GENTILES (Mishneh Torah, Hilchos Ma'achalos Asuros 11:7 and Hilchos Avodas Kochavim 9:4; commentary on Mishnah, Avodah Zarah 1:3), and implies the same in a fourth place (Hilchos Melachim 11:4)
(NOTE: THESE TEXTS ARE CENSORED FROM THE STANDARD EDITIONS OF THESE WORKS).
The Rambam further rules that any religion which would believe in shittuf would also be prohibited to gentiles.
(Hilchos Melachim 9:2).
According to the Nodah Biyhudah,* the Rama agrees with the Rambam that any religion of shittuf would be forbidden to gentiles (nor did the Rama ever indicate that Christianity was shittuf (rather than idolatry).
* Nodah Biyhudah - Mahdura Tinyasa 148
"Behold, I say that they have tied a rope to a rope and a strand to a strand; where does this 'chacham' get this idea that the gentiles are not commanded concerning shittuf?! And nevertheless this thing is found in the mouths of many chachamim... and I have toiled and I have not found this thing either in the Babylonian or Jerusalem Talmud, and not in any of the gedolei harishonim; and if this was true, then the Rambam should have brought in Hilchos Melachim as a psak halacha that a gentile is not commanded on avoda zarah with shittuf, so why did he exempt this din? He also contests that, regarding avoda zarah, there is no difference between a Jew and a gentile, for behold, an explicit baraisa in Maseches Sanhedrin 56b states, 'Everything that a Jewish beis din executes upon, b'nei Noah are warned concerning them'; and likewise in Hilchos Melachim 9:2... and it seems to me that the fact that it has become commonplace for people to say that b'nei Noah are not warned concerning shittuf is according to an error they made in reading Tosafos in Maseches Bechoros 2b.... In light of [Tosafos] the Rama poskaned in Orech Chairn 156.... These words have been misconstrued by many chachamim who reasoned that the intention of the Rama is that b'nei Noah are not commanded concerning serving avodah zarah in shittuf. However, this is not in fact the case. The intention of the Tosephos and the Rama is that combining the Name of Heaven with something else in an oath does not constitute the actual worship of idolatry; rather he is combining the Name of Heaven with something else, but he is not calling in the name of Elokim and he is not saying 'you are my g-d.' Instead, he is merely mentioning him in his oath with the Name of Heaven in a manner of honor, regarding which we find a prohibition upon Israel, as it is written 'and in His Name shall you swear'; this is a warning to Israel not to swear except in His Name (blessed be He) and not to combine the Name of Heaven and something else, as the Rambam wrote in 11:2 of Hilchos Shevuos - and the gentiles are not warned regarding this shittuf.
However, regarding the service of avoda zarah with shittuf, there is no difference between a Jew and a gentile!... The general principle that we have received is that anything for which a Jewish court administers death upon, the gentiles are also forewarned upon, as we wrote above. Afterwards I saw in the Sefer Meil Tzeddaka in sec. 22, who also makes the same distinction; however, he did not bring the proof which I have written here...." ********************************* BTW, what do you mean by "anti-semantic?"
Zionism to my understanding is what some Jews learned from Hitler's tactics and choose to use for their own agenda.
If Jews were really people of God as they claim , how could they use unGodly means to achieve their goals.
As far as I know the only people God ever told the Jews to destroy were the Canaanites. As the Bible says Gods' people grew weary of war and quit the fight. God told them to never let the Canaanites live among them , because they would destroy them.
There are an evil people among us , whether they are Canaanites I can't say.
I am trying to understand , but when a select people have the power to have any discussion about them silenced , it makes me wonder who is who.
As far as I know the only difference between me and Jews , is my belief in Jesus Christ. That's something I don't have a problem with.
There was nothing hateful towards Jewish people in what I said.
I mentioned Rothschild because he is who sent Paul Warburg to America to get control of our economy (again) , which he did through the federal reserve act in 1913.
Rothschild also sent Jacob Schiff to America to get control of the railroads , which he did. And they used control of the railroads to make Rockefeller the oil king of America. By the way Al Gore's daughter's married name is Schiff.
To me talking about specific people and events is not predjudice or racial.
But then people like poohbah come along and silence any discussion on the subject.
Is that protecting the Jewish people from harassment or is that aligning oneself with the Jewish people in order to hide behind anti-Semitism. I don't know.
My question is , if the Jewish people have nothing to hide then why can't their involvement in history be discussed?
Wouldn't the best cure for anti-semitism be clearing the air?
No matter what people want to think , I'm not foolish enough to believe a whole Race of people are evil. But why Gods' people are afraid of discussion bothers me.
If God chose me I would stand proud and loud..............
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