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The family's bill was $9,562.46, but it grew to $11,092.46 after penalties and interest.

To the Dems, would you want Opie to handle 'your' money?


1 posted on 08/01/2003 6:28:28 AM PDT by defeat_the_dem_igods
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To: defeat_the_dem_igods
Think of the poor children who didn't get their school lunches because he failed to pay his taxes!
2 posted on 08/01/2003 6:32:35 AM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (When news breaks, we fix it.)
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To: defeat_the_dem_igods
Do I sense a pattern developing?
3 posted on 08/01/2003 6:35:21 AM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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To: Tax-chick; Overtaxed
"John Edwards thinks taxes are for the little people" ping.
4 posted on 08/01/2003 6:36:19 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: defeat_the_dem_igods
To the Dems, would you want Opie to handle 'your' money?

This is so typical of the demonRATS. Tax everybody as much as possible and then skip paying your own taxes with no explaination.

This is outrageous behavior, but the demonRATS will defend his right to make these silly little mistakes, but don't you try it or your property will be confiscated by them.

5 posted on 08/01/2003 6:36:31 AM PDT by w1andsodidwe (recycling is a waste of time for hardworking taxpayers, hire the homeless to sort garbage)
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To: defeat_the_dem_igods
"Only the little people pay taxes." Leona Helmsley
6 posted on 08/01/2003 6:38:20 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: defeat_the_dem_igods
Edwards organizes his business well to be a lawyer and wanta be president. Didnt receive a bill, well that is the best excuse I ever heard for not paying someone I owe, think I will try it.I will also bet Edwards didnt pay all the penalities they speak of, you have people who are constantly late paying taxes that are forgiven of penalities by those in control.
Also I am sure he bleeds for and understands the average mans pain when he has all this property and style of living that he cant keep up with. Poor fellow.
If I didnt pay taxes I could afford to demand they keep going up, we are not sucking enough blood from the populace as it is.
8 posted on 08/01/2003 6:49:06 AM PDT by gunnedah
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To: defeat_the_dem_igods
Campaign ad! John Edwards deprives elderly food by not paying taxes and causes people to die.
9 posted on 08/01/2003 6:57:27 AM PDT by cksharks
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To: defeat_the_dem_igods
If he can't manage his family finances, he certainly cannot manage the United States
10 posted on 08/01/2003 7:06:59 AM PDT by Peach
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To: defeat_the_dem_igods
Good grief... how many of us could stand up to this kind of scrutiny? Garbage like this will chill everyone but self-rightneous ne'r-do-wrongs from seeking office.
11 posted on 08/01/2003 7:16:47 AM PDT by kezekiel
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To: defeat_the_dem_igods
I absolutely refuse to play the "class warfare" card. There honestly isn't a jealous bone in my body, and as far as I'm concerned, there's not a thing in the world wrong with being or becoming wealthy.

But... I find it ironic that the "party of the people," or the "party of the workin' man" has twice recently run in North Carolina statewide contests extravagently wealthy candidates who largely financed their own campaigns: Erskine Bowles (who, let's just say, married very well), and John Edwards.

Senator Edwards owns three residences with tax-assessed valuations totalling about $4 million: $2 million for his Georgetown (DC) townhouse, and $1 million each for his homes in Raleigh and on Figure Eight Island. Note that these are tax valuations; market value is often higher, sometimes much so. For instance, he paid $4 million for the DC townhouse.

Again, that's fine. But is it too much to ask that he pay his taxes on time?

14 posted on 08/01/2003 7:38:00 AM PDT by southernnorthcarolina ("Shut up," he explained.)
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To: *Edwards Watch; *Old_North_State; **North_Carolina; Constitution Day; mykdsmom; 100%FEDUP; ...
Indexing to Edwards Watch...
15 posted on 08/01/2003 7:39:22 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: defeat_the_dem_igods
After Clinton's crimes, this will not be a problem for the Democratic spin machine. Since the Dems pay lip service to recycling, how about "Everybody pays their taxes late".
16 posted on 08/01/2003 7:41:18 AM PDT by Biblebelter
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To: defeat_the_dem_igods
Nine times does seem to be a lot of late tax payments, although I'd imagine that Edwards has a lot of properties, and probably can't keep track of everything. I actually think the DC property tax is the most understandable. If you buy a house somewhere, you're not familiar with the dates property taxes are due, nor will you know the exact amount due, until the bill comes. I pay the property tax on my car, but if I never got a bill, I'd never know how much to pay or where to send it. I can imagine the same applies for a house, especially if you don't live there. And I'm willing to bet that the DC department that sends out taxes might not be the most organized place on the planet.

Some of the late taxes on cars are a bit inconsequential, especially if the notices were sent to his house in NC while he was in DC. However, the main problem here is that you've got nine late payments. I certainly don't think he was trying to avoid taxes. I really think that is shows some disorganization in running his personal finances. Since he does travel a lot, and does buy investment properties, it would probably be prudent for him to pay an accountant to handle this type of stuff. Even if you had to pay $100 per hour, it would probably only take three hours a week, and he's save a lot in late fees, interest, and probably in taxes as well, as an accountant could better keep track of receipts, business expenses, etc. Geez, I hope if he becomes President (not bloodly likely), he decides to hire a treasury secretary and not do it himself. ("I was at a summit in Geneva, and never knew that the interest payments on those T-Bonds was due. But I've got my assistant taking the payment to Wall Street right now!")

18 posted on 08/01/2003 7:49:29 AM PDT by Koblenz (There's usually a free market solution)
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To: defeat_the_dem_igods
This is no big deal. We are wasting our time on such issues.
19 posted on 08/01/2003 8:00:49 AM PDT by VRWC_minion (Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and most are right)
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To: defeat_the_dem_igods
Here's what the Charlotte Observer printed on the same subject -- lead story in Section B (Local & State):

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Edwards tardy on taxes for D.C. house
Presidential hopeful pays $11,000, says he never got bill

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Payment 4 months late; fees on senator's
Raleigh property have been overdue in past

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MARK JOHNSON
Raleigh Bureau

U.S. Sen. John Edwards, an N.C. Democrat and presidential candidate, paid $11,000 in Washington, D.C., property taxes Thursday -- four months late and after inquiries from a newspaper.

Edwards, a multimillionaire former trial lawyer, and his wife, Elizabeth, also have been tardy paying property taxes on their house and cars in Raleigh more than 30 times over the past decade, including eight times in which they had to pay interest.

He also has paid two late bills and interest since 1989 on his property and house on Figure Eight Island, an exclusive, private island off of Wrightsville Beach.

In the case of the Washington house, the Edwardses bought a four-story home in the Georgetown area of Washington last year for nearly $4 million and planned to renovate it. Recently they said they plan to stay in the house they're renting in northwest Washington and are considering selling the Georgetown house. The $11,092 tax bill on it was due March 31 but wasn't paid until a Washington Times reporter asked about it earlier this week.

"The Edwardses never received a bill from the D.C. city government," Jennifer Palmieri, Edwards's campaign spokeswoman, said Thursday. "As soon as they got a copy of it, they paid it. The check was delivered today. He's happy to pay his share."

D.C.'s tax office likely got confused by Edwards' multiple housing deals, according to Tony Bullock, spokesman for Washington Mayor Anthony Williams.

"(Edwards) sold his house in Woodley Park, bought a house in Georgetown and moved into a third house he was renting," Bullock said. "More than likely what happened here is that the tax bill got lost in the swirl of those movements. Our tax office is pretty good but we can't guarantee that we sent the tax bill to the right address. Clearly Senator Edwards had every intention of paying his bill."

Republicans quickly contrasted Edwards' late tax payments with his campaign rhetoric about exhibiting responsibility, not creating tax breaks for the wealthy and serving as a champion for "regular people."

"Senator, those `regular people' that you claim so nobly to be running to represent pay their taxes," said Linda Daves of Charlotte, interim state GOP chair. "The hypocrisy of your words versus your actions is simply overwhelming."

The late tax payments in Raleigh, in Wake County, were on the Edwards' house in the Country Club neighborhood and several cars over the years. N.C. counties allow a grace period of a month after car taxes are due before charging interest on delinquent payments.

Most of the payments arrived a few days beyond the grace period, but the image of a millionaire paying his taxes late could be politically problematic for Edwards. He boasts of a working class empathy drawn from his mill town roots in Robbins, N.C., and regularly bashes President Bush for catering to the rich.

"We need to make sure," Edwards said in the text for a speech last November to the Fortune Global Forum, "that businesses and wealthy investors are held to the same standard as ordinary Americans when it comes to following our tax laws."

21 posted on 08/01/2003 8:08:35 AM PDT by southernnorthcarolina ("Shut up," he explained.)
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To: defeat_the_dem_igods
The family's bill was $9,562.46, but it grew to $11,092.46 after penalties and interest.

I believe we have a patriotic duty to avoid taxes to every extent possible. I file at the last minute, structure my business so that I can take advatage of every loophole, etc. But I would never pay late and endure the pernalties and interest. That is just plain lazy and stupid.

Edwards is doing himself, his family and society a disservice by pissing away his wealth to be eaten up by the least productive people in our society (ie, government bureaucrats). The capital wasted in penalties would be far more beneficial in the private sector where it could help the economy and create jobs. So one could argue that Edwards' inefficient management of capital is responsible for some measure of decreased productivity and increased unemployment.

Also, it makes one wonder what else he is inattentive to.

22 posted on 08/01/2003 8:15:38 AM PDT by massadvj
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To: defeat_the_dem_igods
I wonder if donor Geoff Fieger will defend him....
23 posted on 08/01/2003 8:17:53 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("This ain't no place for a nervous person." - Mickey Redmond)
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To: defeat_the_dem_igods
Ouch ! Darn thats a 16 percent surcharge.

I know for a fact that they are not messing around as I set payment arrangements with them in the past( sales commissions exceeded more than I our co. accountant had advised). Got my Auto tax and this is incentivising me.

As said "the hits keep on coming".

24 posted on 08/01/2003 8:19:43 AM PDT by Helms (Postmodern Culture has arrived-buckle your rollercoaster belts)
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FYI, most municipalities have a very stiff penalty..usually 10%..even if it's one day late..and there are no exceptions..no excuses...it's done to discourage folks from floating a loan, so to speak, and also because the municipality needs the money, and budgets accordingly...also, a PENALTY is NOT tax deductible...
25 posted on 08/01/2003 8:21:33 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: defeat_the_dem_igods
Gee, maybe we should take up a collection to help the poor man pay his taxes.

I am in for a dime.
27 posted on 08/01/2003 8:29:14 AM PDT by razorback-bert
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