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To: dirtboy
This is a gut-wrenching change - but the government should be working to staunch it, instead of increasing the bleeding with policies such as H1-B

Everything the government touches, with respect to jobs, goes sour. H1-B's could be one example. But the migration of jobs overseas is not the result of merely "Corporate Bigwigs" deciding to move. The same government you are asking for assistance is the government that saddles American business with costly rules and regulations, taxes, and out of control tort laws. How can a government that has screwed it up so badly already suddenly get it right?

No one here is regularly bleating for bigger government in other walks of life. Why do we think they can do a good job here?

308 posted on 07/31/2003 1:34:31 PM PDT by Mr. Bird
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To: Mr. Bird
No one here is regularly bleating for bigger government in other walks of life. Why do we think they can do a good job here?

It's not even that, although I do agree with the points you raised. The H1-B visa program was vastly expanded in the mid to late 1990s because we supposedly had a shortage of tech workers. Whether or not that was true at the time, it is clear we no longer have a shortage and instead have millions of American IT workers out of work. The program should be ended, and existing H1-B holders sunseted over the course of two or three years. But Bush has said nothing that I'm aware of that this program should be curtailed, and instead implies that the unemployed need more training when highly-trained and experienced tech workers can't even find jobs. THAT is the problem here - Bush doesn't even understand what the underlying problem is nowadays, and it makes him seem very out of touch to people who are trying to contend with these changes.

318 posted on 07/31/2003 1:38:23 PM PDT by dirtboy (Who's that big cat I saw roaming around here again?)
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To: Mr. Bird
”No one here is regularly bleating for bigger government in other walks of life. Why do we think they can do a good job here?”

How about this… FOR ONCE…

SCREW THE OTHER GUY AND PASS THE SAVINGS ON TO AMERICANS!

I guess that if we really try we can outsource every office job in the US and import inexpensive labor for every non office job. Then we can all huddle around a trash can fire for warmth while we discuss the virtues of free trade with third world nations.

As far as what Bush said, perhaps it came out wrong or some of us are taking it out of context but the guy should try to be a bit more lucid when talking to the press. To “me” it came off as a slap in the face to all the qualified tech workers in the US who are WILLING TO WORK but cant find jobs.

At the very least Bush's statment is promoting another BIG GOVERNMENT HANDOUT that someone (I’m assuming you and I) will have to pay for. Who knows, maybe all these county colleges can begin teaching Hindi and all our displaced tech workers can spend their days arranging the wire transfer of payroll checks to India.

We are CONSERVATIVES and as such do not want government interference in our lives, but as PRAGMATIC AMERICANS if there has to be government interference somewhere LET IT BE WITH THE PEOPLE OF ANOTHER NATION!

401 posted on 07/31/2003 2:11:03 PM PDT by SouthParkRepublican (SORRY FOR THE RANTING!)
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