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To: thackney
As jobs requirements change, we all need to change to keep up with them or we will get left behind.

Look at the job market. I was out in it last year. There are millions of tech workers who are highly trained who simply cannot get jobs now, or are facing pay cuts in excess of fifty percent. And it's even worse for manufacturing workers - if they were to get training for technical jobs, they would graduate that training into the tech sector that is facing the greatest job loss. So training is NOT the answer. Doing something about H1-B and L1 visas, however, is a good start, as well as offering tax advantages to companies who keep jobs in this country - because it's better to the government to get less tax from an American job than it is to get NO tax on that job after it's gone elsewhere.

296 posted on 07/31/2003 1:28:58 PM PDT by dirtboy (Who's that big cat I saw roaming around here again?)
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To: dirtboy
Are you working now my friend ???? I was out almost ten months last year ... I have literally dozens of friends and aquaintences who are either out of work or, in the case of some of my self-employed friends, are suffering very very bad economic times.
306 posted on 07/31/2003 1:32:56 PM PDT by clamper1797 (Conservative by nature ... Republican in Spirit ... Patriot by Heart ... and Anti Liberal BY GOD)
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To: dirtboy
if they were to get training for technical jobs, they would graduate that training into the tech sector that is facing the greatest job loss

The point I am trying to make, poorly perhaps, is this is NOT what the president was saying. No part of the presidents answer was moving people into tech jobs.

The IEEE article tried to twist his response into saying Tech people were not adequately trained. That is not what he said either. Individuals do need to keep up with evolving technology or they will be left behind.

I am an consulting electrical engineer, working in the oil & gas industry. I GREATLY understand loss of jobs, and jobs going overseas. I have looked at taking a LARGE paycut in exchange for some job security.

The H1-B and L1 visas need to be brought back under control. There is some progress here, but not enough.

I am not wild about another government handout. But perhaps reasonable tariffs on import tech products (like software, design, etc) could be used as has been done in manufacturing.

331 posted on 07/31/2003 1:41:11 PM PDT by thackney
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