To: Florida_Irish
If your employer can find someone to do your job for less, you need to make yourself more valuable. Life is not fair. The tech industry is growing fast and a valuable skill today does not make your job secure for very long. Learn new skills. Stay ahead of the competition. It always bothers me when people complain about jobs going overseas. You do not have a right to a job because you were born in America.
15 posted on
07/31/2003 12:02:10 PM PDT by
wesdale
To: wesdale
If your employer can find someone to do your job for less, you need to make yourself more valuable. The H1-B visa program is based on a lie - that there is a shortage of tech workers. And, above and beyond that, do we want this country to completely lose the concept of a middle class, which is the primary component of economic and political stability? Other countries keep up barriers as we lower ours. It's kinda like being in a boxing match and lowering your guard and hoping the other guy doesn't clean your clock - it ain't ever gonna happen.
23 posted on
07/31/2003 12:04:04 PM PDT by
dirtboy
(Who's that big cat I saw roaming around here again?)
To: wesdale
If your employer can find someone to do your job for less, you need to make yourself more valuableOk I'll just ask my employer to cut my salary to 6k a year so I can be more attractive to employ. Is that what you're doing?
To: wesdale
It's not just about learning new skills, there has to be new projects to apply those skills. For the most part, companies now are getting by with older technology, that is more mature. They've gotten burned enough times by "bleeding edge" technology.
26 posted on
07/31/2003 12:05:00 PM PDT by
dfwgator
To: wesdale
Another thing is that emphasis on new skills has led to a lot of "resume-driven" design. We saw this in the Java world where companies were driven to purchase expensive application servers using Enterprise Java Beans, when simple servlets and JDBC access would have done just fine.
35 posted on
07/31/2003 12:07:55 PM PDT by
dfwgator
To: wesdale
Learn new skills. Stay ahead of the competition. Skills like living in the US on under $10,000 a year?
42 posted on
07/31/2003 12:10:47 PM PDT by
Florida_Irish
(Outsourcing is unpatriotic)
To: wesdale
"You do not have a right to a job because you were born in America."
But we do have the right that our government treat ALL citizens equally. Setting up the H1-B visa to screw specific professions violates that right.
To: wesdale
"
You do not have a right to a job because you were born in America."
As American taxpayers we do have the right to expect our tax dollars to benefit America! Instead, they're being used to enable, back up, and encourage companies to set up shop over seas.
To: wesdale
It always bothers me when people complain about jobs going overseas. You do not have a right to a job because you were born in America. It bothers me when Marxists use this line to defend a bunch of government policies designed to destroy America. It bothered me when Bill Clinton did and does it. It bothers me when Hillary Clinton did it does it. Most especially it bothers me when the ignorant or treasonous here on Free Republic do it.
87 posted on
07/31/2003 12:20:28 PM PDT by
harpseal
(Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
To: wesdale
"If your employer can find someone to do your job for less, you need to make yourself more valuable."
Employers can find people overseas to work for less than the average American pays in taxes. In other words, we could all work for less if we didn't have to pay 40 to 50% of it in taxes.
89 posted on
07/31/2003 12:20:53 PM PDT by
babygene
(Viable after 87 trimesters)
To: wesdale
You do not have a right to a job because you were born in America Now there's an outstanding campaign slogan for the Republican party! Why don't you e-mail them and proudly take ownership of this line. I'm sure it will attract tens of millions of new voters to the party, and grateful Bush functionaries will shower you with gifts and free cash.
284 posted on
07/31/2003 1:25:03 PM PDT by
Regulator
(But I doubt it, genius)
To: wesdale
You do not have a right to a job because you were born in America.It's like the "pro-life" people who support human fetal research or therapeutic cloning because it might lead to a cure for themselves or someone close.
To: wesdale
Wesdale. We have given away our manufacturing base, and now we are giving away our tech base. It has nothing to do with our rights as Americans. (Unless you subscribe to the outdated belief of "Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness"). We are selling our birthright, and we deserve to reap the whirlwind. Just too bad that it will be our kids and grandkids who will be paying.
To: wesdale
If your employer can find someone to do your job for less, you need to make yourself more valuable. Life is not fair. The tech industry is growing fast and a valuable skill today does not make your job secure for very long. Learn new skills. Stay ahead of the competition. It always bothers me when people complain about jobs going overseas You obviously have absolutely NO clue how the IT industry works right now. There plenty of very, very highly qualified people out of work right now precisely because they are, in the eyes of employers, TOO qualified. The employer would rather pay low wages to some marginally qualified scrub overseas than a highly qualified American whose expertise they are afraid they might actually have to pay for. They are simply too shortsighted to understand how much a highly skilled IT professional brings to the job beyond the basic job requirements. You can't fix it by "learning new skills" when clueless IT managers don't ahve the first effing clue what skills they actually need in a given position.
To: wesdale
To: wesdale
If your employer can find someone to do your job for less, you need to make yourself more valuable. Life is not fair. The tech industry is growing fast and a valuable skill today does not make your job secure for very long. Learn new skills. Stay ahead of the competition. It always bothers me when people complain about jobs going overseas. You do not have a right to a job because you were born in America. Great, another know-nothing Republican. Could we pick a different campaign message than yours? If you don't mind, I'd really like to avoid an instant replay of 1992 when this attitude caused people to desert our party by the millions and we got swept right out of power.
402 posted on
07/31/2003 2:11:40 PM PDT by
jpl
To: wesdale
If your employer can find someone to do your job for less, you need to make yourself more valuable. Life is not fair.That's exactly right. Some of these whiners should beg to have their salaries reduced by 40 percent or more, so they too can compete and not have to worry about being fired. That could by them time to learn new skills too. The government never told us life would be easy.
431 posted on
07/31/2003 2:19:48 PM PDT by
Joe Hadenuf
(RECALL DAVIS, position his smoking chair over a trapdoor, a memo for the next governor.)
To: wesdale
I don't have a problem with jobs going overseas but the supply of workers in my field, in my own country, should not be increased by non-citizen visitors as a means of holding down my pay and value in the work place. There is no counter balance for the worker to this practice because most Americans are not going to leave the country to compete for jobs outside the US.
The workforce is the marketplace in which I sell my services. If American citizenship as an gives me no protection from non-citizens in this marketplace, then what good is it? Might as well just go to a one world government and move on.
525 posted on
08/01/2003 9:34:23 AM PDT by
Honcho
To: wesdale
Idiot of the year award.
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