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IMPEACH THOSE BLACK-ROBED RENEGADE JUDGES
NewsWithViews.com ^ | July 21, 2003 | Lon Mabon

Posted on 07/31/2003 8:54:10 AM PDT by Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS

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To: Gargantua
Believe it or not, there are many here who believe the Lawrence decision was, far from being liberal judicial activism, a step in the right direction toward limited government.

Typically, conservatives are all in favor of limited government, but I guess in this case, the will to rule over others is the greater consideration.

21 posted on 07/31/2003 12:12:36 PM PDT by tdadams
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To: Gargantua
Well, there's certainly no need for me to ask you the same question I asked the other poster.
22 posted on 07/31/2003 12:15:46 PM PDT by wimpycat (Down with Kooks and Kookery!)
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To: Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
Still feel that the judiciary should be automated. Would prevent these renegade judges from developing law instead of interpreting it. And save a lot of taxpayer dollars in salaries because judgeships are lifetime appointments.
23 posted on 07/31/2003 12:19:28 PM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: Modernman
[without] an independent judiciary... every legal decison will be based on public opinion, rather than the law.

And I for one, would rather not have a Supreme Court that can be cowed into making unjust decisions by a democratic mob. I want a judiciary that has the lattitude to make decisions that are just, even if they're unpopular.

24 posted on 07/31/2003 12:24:00 PM PDT by tdadams
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To: Gargantua
No, what he seems to be proposing is making it easier, and even common, for Judges to be removed who flaunt their Oath of Office by ignoring or trying to re-write The Constitution.

Define "flaunt their Oath of Office." We appoint judges to interpret laws and the Constitution. By expanding the impeachment power of Congress, you make the legislature the final judge of what is and isn't Consitutional. That goes against the whole idea of separation of powers, which is the hallmark of the American democratic system. Once you give another branch of government the power to kick judges out for making "unconstitutional" rulings, the judiciary becomes obsolete.

25 posted on 07/31/2003 12:25:29 PM PDT by Modernman
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To: tdadams
And I for one, would rather not have a Supreme Court that can be cowed into making unjust decisions by a democratic mob

The Founding Fathers put mechanisms in place to prevent momentary popular passions from trampling constitutional rights. Now, some of the posters here are basically saying that the Constitution means what Congress says it does. They're rather missing the point of how our system is supposed to work.

26 posted on 07/31/2003 12:29:21 PM PDT by Modernman
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To: Modernman
"Define "flaunt their Oath of Office."

Interesting. That's precisely what I did (define flaunt their Oath) in the very paragrapgh you copied-and-pasted into your inobservant reply #25.

Here, I'll re-post it from there for you. This time, read (slowly if need be), think, then post. N'Kay? :-)

...for Judges to be removed who flaunt their Oath of Office by ignoring or trying to re-write The Constitution.

You must feel very silly...

27 posted on 07/31/2003 1:05:58 PM PDT by Gargantua (Embrace clarity.)
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To: tdadams; Modernman
tdadams replies:"And I for one, would rather not have a Supreme Court that can be cowed into making unjust decisions by a democratic mob.

Yes, I agree. That's why it is important for congress to send a message to the Mass. supreme court before it is cowed into making an unjust decision by a democratic mob.

Mondernman replies to tdadams: "The Founding Fathers put mechanisms in place to prevent momentary popular passions from trampling constitutional rights. Now, some of the posters here are basically saying that the Constitution means what Congress says it does. They're rather missing the point of how our system is supposed to work.

The way our system is supposed to work is to go through the amendment process rather than let the courts RE-DEFINE the words used in law and the constitution which have already been defined and enjoyed use for centuries.

Political and legal status of Freed slaves and women were recognized through the amendment process. Why should the court short-circuit the process by RE-DEFINING the word, 'marriage -- a word that has already been defined and in legal and social use for centuries to include a class of people that do not meet the legal definition of the word?

It would not only be inconsistent with the established practice, it would be legislating from the bench. If we are concerned with the rule of law and the constitution , and especially the promotion of conservatism, we would be remiss if we did not push congress to send a message to the courts and prevent the judges from RE-DEFINING words already in use before they do their dirty deed. It is task enough for the court to define the law and the constituion, not change the meaning of words they are supposed to use to perform that task.

Who needs laws or a constitution if five appointed udges are allowed to subvert the intent of the Founding Fathers by changing the legal meaning of words?

And a final thought: If I was a descendant of a freed slaves, or a woman wanting equal rights, I would take it to heart if the court, and the senate both considered the homosexual community as being more human and more deserving of higher status than they were accorded.

28 posted on 07/31/2003 2:45:36 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
Ping.
29 posted on 07/31/2003 2:51:45 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
Here is a judicial activism thread for Freepers who are sick and tired of liberal obstruction of Bush's qualified conservative judges.

FREEPer ESTRADA Activism (VANITY)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/847037/posts
30 posted on 07/31/2003 3:30:07 PM PDT by votelife (Free Bill Pryor)
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To: Eastbound
Why should the court short-circuit the process by RE-DEFINING the word, 'marriage

In case you're forgetting something, they haven't!

31 posted on 08/01/2003 2:15:29 AM PDT by tdadams
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To: tdadams
No, I haven't forgotten. The question, and in fact, my whole post, was directed to the Mass. supreme court who is currently considering it, and to any other state supreme court, and to the SCOTUS, which might think it expedient.







32 posted on 08/01/2003 9:38:02 AM PDT by Eastbound
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To: Eastbound
Sheesh! Edit last paragraph:

Change: ". . . freed slaves . . " to ' . . . freed slave . . ..' and " . .that they were accorded." to ' . . . than that which they were accorded.'

33 posted on 08/01/2003 11:52:44 AM PDT by Eastbound (Edit and preview before posting - edit and preview before posting. Okay, I got it. -)
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