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If you don't like something, don't listen/watch it, and keep your children away from it.
1 posted on 07/31/2003 7:31:27 AM PDT by theoverseer
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To: theoverseer; gcruse
How soon will it be before the righteous, holier-than-thou crowd comes storming in here to defend such 1st Amendment a$$wiping done in the name of "decency"!

CENSORSHIP IS INDECENT!!


2 posted on 07/31/2003 7:48:25 AM PDT by bassmaner (Let's take back the word "liberal" from the commies!!)
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To: theoverseer
If you don't like something, don't listen/watch it, and keep your children away from it.

Hard to do when it's everywhere now days. We watched the premeire of the new series "Nip/Tuck" the other day. Won't be watching it again. I lost count of how many times they said "sh*t" on the show. Then they showed the previews for the upcoming season which included bare breasts, a girl's face between the legs of another girl, and other things that, IMO, shouldn't be on regular TV.

Looks like Carlin's list has been shortened.

7 posted on 07/31/2003 8:13:28 AM PDT by al_c
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To: theoverseer
While it appears that Congress may thwart at least part of the FCC's plan to increase media consolidation,

The FCC has no plan to INCREASE media consolidation. It has plans to loosen regulations regarding media consolidation. Big difference.

And this announcement came at a time when the constitutionality of the FCC's censorship regime is more doubtful than ever.

This author has no problems with the FCC restricting ownership, but questions the constitutionality of its so-called 'censorship'.

less attention has been given to its tough new stance against "indecent" words and ideas.

The FCC's power to censor the airwaves goes back to the beginning of radio,

This "new" stance is more akin to the "old" stance. Where was this published? Pacifica's website?

15 posted on 07/31/2003 8:41:19 AM PDT by Grit (Tolerance for all but the intolerant...and those who tolerate intolerance etc etc)
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To: theoverseer
It's a parent's job to parent. It's an individual's job to use the clicker to protect themselves from being offended.

It is not the job of a bunch of unelected jack booted bureaucrats.

22 posted on 07/31/2003 9:01:43 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("This ain't no place for a nervous person." - Mickey Redmond)
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To: theoverseer
From the FCC site:

A ``Tony Danza's'' when you grab her by the hair, throw her down on the bed, smack her around a little bit and tell her who's the boss.

26 posted on 07/31/2003 9:05:20 AM PDT by TankerKC (If corn oil comes from corn, where does baby oil come from?)
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To: theoverseer; Dan from Michigan
If you don't like something, don't listen/watch it, and keep your children away from it.

Overseer. What about all the nearly pornographic billboards? How do you keep them from that? The more ways I find to protect my children the more ways others find to corrupt them. Billboards, bumper stickers, tee shirts, TV, radio, video games, and email to name a few.

There are two problems with ultimate free speech. The first is directly targeting children with subject matter not appropriate for children, this should be a crime. The other is with the "in your face" free speechers who think that just because they have the right to say something that everyone else including children has to listen and see, or that they should be forced into hearing and seeing it. You have a right to say it, but I should also have the right for my children not be subjected to your free speech profanities. In today’s world your solution of "keep your children away from it" means locking them up incommunicado and it shouldn't be that way.

There should be some decency in this country. But we have become instead of a united people a nation of individuals who care for only me, me, me. Do not be so zealous or so callous in exercising your rights that you hurt someone along the way. Freedom of speech should be a good thing not an abuse of others.

28 posted on 07/31/2003 9:15:08 AM PDT by Between the Lines ("What Goes Into the Mind Comes Out in a Life")
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To: theoverseer
The Supreme Court's 1978 decision in Pacifica upheld the FCC's power to censor broadcasting under the broad, vague "patently offensive" definition. The primary justification, said Justice John Paul Stevens for the Court's 5-4 majority, was to protect children who, he assumed, would be harmed by Carlin's bawdy language. In any case, said Stevens, the government wasn't really banning vulgar speech; it was only requiring that it be aired late at night, when children are unlikely to be listening.

The Pacifica decision was indefensible as a matter of constitutional law, but its practical effect at the time was insignificant. Television was already steering clear of the risque so as not to offend any part of its national audience, while radio, which was sometimes more daring, could nevertheless be reasonably safe from FCC sanction if it simply avoided the "seven dirty words" and a few others of similar ilk.

All this changed in 1987, when the FCC, under pressure from the religious right, abandoned the "bright line" dirty-words test and announced that henceforth it would prohibit any broadcast it considered "patently offensive," regardless of specific language or redeeming social value. Again, a progressive, counter-cultural Pacifica station was among the targets of the FCC's displeasure. (It had broadcast a program about gay rights.)

When Reagan first took office he began appointing libertarians to the FCC instead of culture crusaders. These appointees believed in minimal government interference with business, whether the business was a grocery store, machine shop, or radio station.

This consistent view was a critical part of the increasing popularity of conservatism among younger people....prudishness was no longer an integral part of same.

-Eric

33 posted on 07/31/2003 9:22:28 AM PDT by E Rocc
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To: theoverseer
My biggest problem with this is the twisting of the first amendment. The first amendment only gives us the right to speak against our government without being harmed for doing so. When it was written, if you spoke out against the king, you were imprisoned or dead. Over the decades, it's been used to cover a great many things it wasn't written for.
39 posted on 07/31/2003 9:54:42 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW ("I'm gonna need a hacksaw" - Jack Bauer)
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To: theoverseer
"the FCC has the power to censor talk shows, political dialogue, and artistic endeavors on radio and television if it finds them too raunchy"

The fact that Springer is still on the air shows that it takes an awful lot for the FCC to consider something 'raunchy'.

45 posted on 07/31/2003 10:31:12 AM PDT by MEGoody
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With radio and even to some extent with T.V., the mouth is faster than the hand.
51 posted on 07/31/2003 10:45:44 AM PDT by Old Professer
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