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Farmed salmon now makes up 80 percent of fresh salmon sold around the country.

1 posted on 07/30/2003 1:24:17 PM PDT by bedolido
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To: farmfriend
Ping! (I think)
2 posted on 07/30/2003 1:25:00 PM PDT by bedolido (Quitters Never Win! Winners Never Quit! But those who never win and never quit are idiots!)
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To: bedolido
Why? PVC pipe and tanks?

Strange.

(steely)

3 posted on 07/30/2003 1:30:41 PM PDT by Steely Tom
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To: bedolido; AAABEST; Ace2U; Alamo-Girl; Alas; amom; AndreaZingg; Anonymous2; ApesForEvolution; ...
Rights, farms, environment ping.

Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.

5 posted on 07/30/2003 1:56:22 PM PDT by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: bedolido
I read about this report. 10 samples! That's supposed to be representative?

Two, I immediately want to know why farm-raised salmon would have higher PCB levels than wild salmon. PCBs increase in predatory fish because with each step up the food chain, the "food" has more contaminants in it. (Same goes for mercury.) So wild fish consuming wild food should have higher levels than farmed fish consuming feed.

NOW, in another thread I pointed out that farmed fish eat fish meal. So the first obvious thing to do is to test the fish meal for PCBs.

6 posted on 07/30/2003 1:59:00 PM PDT by cogitator
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To: bedolido
Grass finished cattle is high in Omega3 fatty acids. Cattle finished in feed lots with grain is high in Omega6 fatty acids and low in Omega3.

Algae fed (or predators on algae fed) fish are high in Omega3 fatty acids. Farm raised fish are high in whatever oils are fed to them. Increasingly, this is inexpensive Omega6 oils from grain.

Soon it will be difficult to find a reliable source of Omega3 oil.

Most canned tuna has any extra omega3 removed and omega6 added to retain taste - even water packed.
9 posted on 07/30/2003 2:04:47 PM PDT by rector seal
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To: bedolido
Last year, the United States imported more than 200,000 tons of salmon raised off the coasts of British Columbia, Chile and elsewhere.

Here in British Columbia, destroying the fish farming industry is now the #1 priority of environmentalists. They repeat the same distortions and outright lies ad infinitum no matter what the actual facts are. The worst offenders are Greenpeace and the David Suzuki Foundation.

10 posted on 07/30/2003 2:05:31 PM PDT by TheMole
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To: bedolido
I think it was National Geographic that ran a story on fish farming. Seems that fish farms hurt wild fish stocks because the farms are maintained in the same places where wild fish run. But because the fish farms have such high concentrations of fish, parasites and diseases are much harder to control. Farmed fish escape from the pens, spread these parasites and diseases to the wild stock; incidence of these are higher in areas where there are fish farms than when there are none. Also, escaped farm fish interbreed with wild fish to result in fish that are genetically inferior as far as wild survival adaptations go. There are definite problems with trying to maintain fences in the ocean as opposed to dry land, and while the low number of escapees is economically sustainable for the farmers (vs. the cost of tightening up the fences), it's ecologically harmful.
11 posted on 07/30/2003 2:05:51 PM PDT by RonF
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To: bedolido
I'm fixing salmon croquettes out of canned
Alaska pink salmon tonight. Is this wild salmon?
I've heard Alaska salmon is all wild. Help!
Someone answer before I have to start supper!!
12 posted on 07/30/2003 2:09:23 PM PDT by Twinkie
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To: bedolido
Farmed salmon on average contained PCB concentrations of 27 parts per billion, while wild salmon averaged about 5 parts per billion, the Environmental Working Group report said.

Both fall well within the food and drug administration’s limits of 2,000 parts per billion.

But the EPA recommends against eating fish more than twice a week if it contains PCB levels greater than 6 parts per billion.

Whew, good thing the wild fish are just below the EPA threshold, huh.

I would have to eat 100 farm fish or 300 wild fish a week to get to the danger level. I don't foresee this happening anytime soon. (I don't like salmon)

This is nothing more than an attempt to cripple fish farms so we have to rely more on wild fish which we can't fish because of ESA/EPA/TBS (total BS). More bogus data to advance an environmental agenda.

16 posted on 07/30/2003 2:18:53 PM PDT by hattend
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To: bedolido
This article is so flawed as a serious exposition of fact as to be laughable.
23 posted on 07/30/2003 2:51:22 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: bedolido
I'm not scared. I'm even going to BBQ my PCB filled salmon. How many fags is that equal to?
24 posted on 07/30/2003 2:53:56 PM PDT by Shmokey (Always be prepared)
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To: bedolido
in lots of areas,farmed salmon is all you can get in winter....i sell farmed salmon and people are cursing about itbut then they buy it...folks,the only way the stores will listen to you is if you stop buying farm raised anything...after all even the clams,oysters,trout and all shrimp are farm raised.. yes folks the next time you buy shrimp or prawns ask where they come from..its the asian countries that are farming them!!!!!
27 posted on 07/30/2003 3:11:25 PM PDT by fishbabe
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To: bedolido
Enviro-whackos can't stand the thought of farm-raised anything. That is because their real goal is anti-capitalism.

It is just a means to an ends. Same with Global warming.
32 posted on 07/31/2003 3:21:58 PM PDT by MonroeDNA (No longshoremen were used to produce this tagline.)
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To: bedolido
They've still got a ways to go before we can use the fish as transformers.
33 posted on 07/31/2003 3:23:43 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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