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Republican Breakup?
PhxNews ^ | Joe Duarte

Posted on 07/30/2003 11:25:27 AM PDT by hsmomx3

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To: tdadams
It means the same thing.

Yes there were slaves in Isreal - G_d did not establish the practice though, it was a creation man. Another product of the corruptable reasoning of man. It is about trusting G_d with your Freedom.
121 posted on 07/30/2003 3:42:28 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters.)
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To: tdadams
[Ephesians 6]

6:1 Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right.
6:2 Honour thy father and mother; which is the first commandment with promise;
6:3 That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth.
6:4 And, ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath: but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord.
6:5 Servants, be obedient to them that are [your] masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ;
6:6 Not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but as the servants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart;
6:7 With good will doing service, as to the Lord, and not to men:
6:8 Knowing that whatsoever good thing any man doeth, the same shall he receive of the Lord, whether [he be] bond or free.
6:9 And, ye masters, do the same things unto them, forbearing threatening: knowing that your Master also is in heaven; neither is there respect of persons with him.
6:10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
122 posted on 07/30/2003 3:44:48 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters.)
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To: hsmomx3
Wow, you haven't been banned yet for not drinking the GOP KoolAid!
123 posted on 07/30/2003 3:46:43 PM PDT by jlogajan
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To: tdadams
And Samuel told all the words of the LORD unto the people that asked of him a king.

And he said, This will be the manner of the king that shall reign over you: He will take your sons, and appoint them for himself, for his chariots, and to be his horsemen; and some shall run before his chariots.

And he will appoint him captains over thousands, and captains over fifties; and will set them to ear his ground, and to reap his harvest, and to make his instruments of war, and instruments of his chariots.

And he will take your daughters to be confectionaries, and to be cooks, and to be bakers.

And he will take your fields, and your vineyards, and your oliveyards, even the best of them, and give them to his servants.

And he will take the tenth of your seed, and of your vineyards, and give to his officers, and to his servants.
And he will take your menservants, and your maidservants, and your goodliest young men, and your asses, and put them to his work.

He will take the tenth of your sheep: and ye shall be his servants.

And ye shall cry out in that day because of your king which ye shall have chosen you; and the LORD will not hear you in that day.

Nevertheless the people refused to obey the voice of Samuel; and they said, Nay; but we will have a king over us;
124 posted on 07/30/2003 3:54:25 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters.)
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To: CyberCowboy777
Just as Dane is broad brushing a person, this writer is broad brushing a group. That is my point

What broadbrushing.

All I did was bring up the fact that Ron Paul was right alongside the UN on Iraq. I guess it is just "conicidental" that Ron Paul was parrotting the UN line.

BTW, CC777, if you are going to mention me by name in one of your replies, I would request that you have the courage to ping me about that reply.

125 posted on 07/30/2003 3:59:52 PM PDT by Dane
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To: gcruse
Aye...
...Bump for freedom.

Do you recall my suggestion that many conservatives are conservatives simply from the "Leave me alone" drive? It's a year ago or more now.
126 posted on 07/30/2003 4:01:02 PM PDT by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: hsmomx3
Before every landslide this article comes up.

Republicans are killing each other
Republicans hate each other
The christians are leaving the party.
Abortion is going to end the republican party.
Tax cuts are going to end the party
yada
yada
yada

Its all barbras streisand. The writer forgets there is no other show in town. (that can win)

Unless you are homosexual, feminist, leftist, or a race baiter there is no place for you in the democrat party.

The democrats must be in BIG trouble if this article is comming out before the Republican convention.
127 posted on 07/30/2003 4:03:37 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: RedneckRampage
John Adams (the second President of the United States)


Adams signed the Treaty of Tripoli (June 7, 1797). Article 11 states:
“The government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion.”
128 posted on 07/30/2003 4:05:44 PM PDT by eccl1212
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To: tdadams
There's an awful lot of hue and cry over this article when it's essentially a very insightful analysis. I guess it rings a little too true for some people's liking.

Some people can't stand to look in the mirror!

129 posted on 07/30/2003 4:15:03 PM PDT by FreeLibertarian (You live and learn. Or you don't live long.)
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To: Maelstrom
Can't say as I remember. :(
130 posted on 07/30/2003 4:22:15 PM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.blogspot.com/)
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To: DittoJed2
Why barf? The author is correct. As the Republican Party continues to track to the left, a split is inevitable. The Democratic Party is definitely waning and natures abhors a vacuum. A new conservative party will arise as the Republicans pursue their move to the center/center-left.
131 posted on 07/30/2003 4:22:31 PM PDT by xrp
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To: Dane
Fine I will ping you. Not an intentional 'diss' to be sure.

Ron Paul wants to get out of the UN. His opinion (which I disagree with) on Iraq happened to coincide with the UN, that hardly put him in the same ideological bed.

I am with you on Iraq, but Ron Paul is no UNer. That is the truth.

BTW- You do not know me and I would appreciate it if you had the common decency to not question my courage over one overlooked courtesy.
132 posted on 07/30/2003 4:23:04 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters.)
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To: hsmomx3
That last big split gave Patsy and the Brigadiers 1% of the vote.

The Greens alone are far more of a threat to the Dimwits that what the GOP is facing.
133 posted on 07/30/2003 4:25:07 PM PDT by Young Rhino (Does God Wear a Tinfoil Hat? Is he a member of the CFR and Trilateral Commission?)
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To: FreeLibertarian
I disagree with this piece and I love looking in the mirror......

We can argue the facts and ideologies without taking every opportunity slam the other side.
134 posted on 07/30/2003 4:26:23 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters.)
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To: CyberCowboy777; tdadams
Ron Paul wants to get out of the UN. His opinion (which I disagree with) on Iraq happened to coincide with the UN, that hardly put him in the same ideological bed

All I did was point out the fact that Ron Paul agreed with the UN and liberal democrats about Iraq.

JMO, Ron Paul is not the infallible political savior as he is portrayed by some on FR.

That was my point, but when I do point it out, the rabid Libertarians(not you CC777, but tdadams) throw out their usual ad hominems.

No big surprise there.

135 posted on 07/30/2003 4:28:52 PM PDT by Dane
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To: Dane
I agree that Ron Paul is not the infallible political savior as he is portrayed by some on FR.

I think he could do allot better at working with the GOP and not embarrassing them.

I might suggest he read Art of War, while often over rated, he could learn how to win battles and better win the war.
136 posted on 07/30/2003 4:39:11 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters.)
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To: Xenalyte; KarlInOhio
""If you think it is the proper role of a Jeffersonian state to steal money from citizens to build civic plazas and university labs…you might be a Republican."
(Thomas Jefferson would gag if he read this.) "

Yeah, using Jefferson to argue against taxes for public education is a sure sign of a whackjob. Jefferson was a strong proponent of publicly funded education.
A university lab is a perfect example of what he would desire to be supported by taxes.

Other examples of what he believed to be proper uses of taxes:
"...opening roads, clearing rivers, forming safe ports, and other useful works...
in making roads, openingrivers, building ports, improving the arts, and finding employment for their idle poor " (Notes On Virginia)

But of course he'd have a conniption fit at the idea of the federal government funding such projects!

137 posted on 07/30/2003 4:47:57 PM PDT by mrsmith
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To: CyberCowboy777
Was there some point to that or did you simply feel a momentary need for spontaneous preaching?
138 posted on 07/30/2003 4:49:43 PM PDT by tdadams
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To: tdadams
I'm quick to correct anyone who calls me a Republican

Yeah...talk about being INSULTED.

139 posted on 07/30/2003 4:50:10 PM PDT by xrp
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To: tdadams
I made mention to the passage so I posted it.

The other was the complete passage that you posted half a verse of.

Is that a problem? I really gave no sermon and you are the one to start the posts of scripture.

140 posted on 07/30/2003 4:53:10 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters.)
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