Republican Breakup?

PhxNews ^ | Joe Duarte

[DittoJed2]

Where was the obligatory "Barf" alert?

[ChadGore]

The only split in the GOP is those who think Bush will win in 2004, and those tho think he'll win by a *landslide* in 2004.

They're both right.

[Sloth]

[FreeLibertarian]

This is the best analysis of the probable future trends that I have seen in a long long time. Excellent article!

[CyberCowboy777]

If you fear the one true God, define America as a “Christian Nation”, seek to make God’s Law the law of the land, think of homosexuals as freaks and sinners, and want to jail women who have abortions…you might be a Republican.

This is a joke. Anyone who views the Christian right this way is either brain dead or has an agenda.

[My2Cents]

There may be a split in the GOP -- the 0.3% who are the naysayers will go off to a corner to sulk on their own.

[anniegetyourgun]

And, of course, there are no divides in the Libertarian so-called party!

[dark_lord]

Actually, a lot of people define themselves as Republicans simply because they are against the DemonRat "Party of Treason". If the DemonRats ever get safely trampled into the mud, where the US House is 2/3 Republican and the Senate is 60% Republican, and Republicans dominate in most state houses and governorships -- at that point those who have been hanging together to counter a common threat will have it out. What will happen then I don't know. I see 2 plausible scenarios.

1st, the DemonRats will become more and more marginalized and a successful 3rd party will arise. That's only happened twice, I think, and never in this century (emphasis on "successful" meaning they become stronger and stronger and overtake one of the primary parties). This can occur if the blue-collar (non-union) democrats, the fiscal conservatives, the "Goldwater" Republicans, and some others create a 3rd party that will absorb the non-leftists from the Democrat party as well as the fiscal conservative/Goldwater Republicans. I make no likelyhood guess as to how long this would take, but I would guess it would depend on how long it takes for a dominant Republican party to become corrupted.

Alternatively, I could see the Democrat party have a revolution and kick out the Leftist demon possessed gay/green/pediphile wing. If they did that successfully and became the party of fiscal conservatism, strong border control (anti-illegal immigration), and strong military defense they could then challenge a dominant Republican party. But the DemonRats would have to be absolutely trampled into the mud for many years before this could happen. Still -- 20 years -- maybe.

[My2Cents]

Both. This kind of comment or "analysis" which relies upon stereotypes shows an inability to understand the true nature of an influential group in our society (or it simply shows the writer's laziness in not doing the research needed to fully understand this group), and dooms the writer and his ilk to perpetual political defeat.

"Know your enemy" is an essential principle of combat, and the author of this article shows no sincere desire to fully "know his enemy," other than to set up a comicbook characterization of people he doesn't like. His laziness and bias consign him to continued defeat and frustration.

[You Dirty Rats]

A lot depends on what happens to the 'Rat Party. For example, if they nominate Dean and he loses 49 states, a net 10 Senators and 30 House seats, the 'Rats may alter their approach in some significant ways to pick up one or more of the groups above.

The Republican Party right now is a pretty big tent. Not for nothing does the term "RINO" exist.

[hobbes1]

There are lots of unhappy Republicans today, chafing at their party’s abandonment of fiscal restraint and occupation by anti-sodomists. There are some number of Democrats that have tired of the drug war, expanded police powers, and foreign adventurism. These people need to find each other, for they are the best Americans.

OK Mr. Browne put your hands in the Air, and step away from the Bong.....

[Cultural Jihad]

There may be a split in the GOP -- the 0.3% who are the naysayers will go off to a corner to sulk on their own.

LOL! The DNC needs to come up with better articles if they expect to peel away any meaningful support among Republicans. On the other hand, the RINOS, the militia nutjobs, the racists, those who want to nuke Mecca, and moral-liberals who turn their blind eyes to evil should be encouraged to leave the Party.

[xsmommy]

i love that pouty little look they have....

[marron]

The Republican Party is historically a coalition between Christians, capitalists, true-believers (he calls them neo-conservatives, but they have always been with us) and pragmatic libertarians. That is the alliance that is the Republican Party. There is always tension between the various currents within the party, but the mixture is more complex than he admits or recognizes, as most people fall into more than one category, and embody more than one current of thought simultaneously.

This makes for a very active philosophical debate, that continues over the generations, as the various currents hammer out a rolling consensus.

[Dane]

The religious nuts might have their own party, like the Religious Nut Party or something similar

There is already one major party that is the "Religious nut party", the uber secular Democratic party, and their miniscule cousin disguising themself as "right wing", the Libertarians.

[My2Cents]

I think your analysis is absolutely correct. It's the historical precedent that one party will not always dominate the political environment. If, and when, the Democrat Party sinks into permanent futility, something will by necessity rise to take its place and become competitive with the Republican Party. There is also the inevitability that once it becomes fat and happy in its success, the Republican Party will splinter over real ideological differences. But this won't happen until it reaches a perpetual supermajority status.

The bottomline: As long as the only issue that the Democrats have to offer is the right to kill one's unborn child, they are doomed to minority status. I'll cheer the day they sink into the abyss. That's objective #1. When that happens, we can then debate the future of the Republican Party.

[joesnuffy]

The theocratic Christian conservatives are a strong wing of the GOP

nice touch

[theDentist]

[rrrod]

tooooooo right!!!! good riddance to the RATS!