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I'm really confused about conservatives' support of "The War on Terror"...

Sure, Schumer is an idiot. His support of this bill is right in line with his attempts at gun control. Everyone here seems to oppose him at every turn - which is good. But he is also a Democrat.

I'd be willing to bet that some of us here who are bashing Schumer would jump right on the bandwagon had a Republican - or even the Bush administration - proposed this idiotic legislation. There would be endless debates about how "it's not a right to own a model rocket", and "we all need to 'sacrifice' in our fight against terror."

Bush's people have attempted to do much more to restrict our liberties than Schumer on this issue, and hardly a peep was heard by any freepers (not all) who supposedly support our Constitution.

All I'm saying is that we need to look beyond our partisanship and ask ourselves what we need to do to preserve our freedoms in this time of crisis. The worst laws in human history have been passed during a period of 'national emergency'. Now is the time we need to be more vigilant than ever - regardless of our party affiliation.

33 posted on 07/29/2003 3:20:57 PM PDT by Possenti
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To: Possenti
You obviously have not been on any of the threads where I have tried to warn people about what Hilliary will use the "Patriot" Act for when she gets back into the White House...among other things I've tried to warn people about.
36 posted on 07/29/2003 3:25:24 PM PDT by Orangedog (Soccer-Moms are the biggest threat to your freedoms and the republic !)
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To: Possenti
I'd be willing to bet that some of us here who are bashing Schumer would jump right on the bandwagon had a Republican - or even the Bush administration - proposed this idiotic legislation. There would be endless debates about how "it's not a right to own a model rocket", and "we all need to 'sacrifice' in our fight against terror."

Straw man.

55 posted on 07/29/2003 4:25:39 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: Possenti
I'm really confused about conservatives' support of "The War on Terror"...

Me too.

I'd be willing to bet that some of us here who are bashing Schumer would jump right on the bandwagon had a Republican - or even the Bush administration - proposed this idiotic legislation. There would be endless debates about how "it's not a right to own a model rocket", and "we all need to 'sacrifice' in our fight against terror."

Me too. I can hear it now. "Where in the Constitution does it say ... ?"

Bush's people have attempted to do much more to restrict our liberties than Schumer on this issue, and hardly a peep was heard by any freepers (not all) who supposedly support our Constitution.

All I'm saying is that we need to look beyond our partisanship and ask ourselves what we need to do to preserve our freedoms in this time of crisis. The worst laws in human history have been passed during a period of 'national emergency'. Now is the time we need to be more vigilant than ever - regardless of our party affiliation.


I couldn't agree more.
57 posted on 07/29/2003 4:38:39 PM PDT by KCmark (I am NOT a partisan.)
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To: Possenti
Sure, Schumer is an idiot. His support of this bill is right in line with his attempts at gun control. Everyone here seems to oppose him at every turn - which is good. But he is also a Democrat.

I'd be willing to bet that some of us here who are bashing Schumer would jump right on the bandwagon had a Republican - or even the Bush administration - proposed this idiotic legislation. There would be endless debates about how "it's not a right to own a model rocket", and "we all need to 'sacrifice' in our fight against terror."

The whole problems stems from the Homeland Security Act and Safe Explosives Act. The BATF found provisions in those bills that allowed them to regulate rocketry. Of course nobody bothered to actually read the bills before they voted for it and hence rocketry was inadvertently slapped with crippling new regulations. Now some of these Senators are trying to pass an exemption for rocketry, trying to undue some of their criminal laziness. Lautenberg and Schumer are only opposing the passage of the exemption. These two thugs are NOT supporting any new law, but are trying to maintain the new status quo signed into law by the Bush administration.

71 posted on 07/30/2003 5:04:42 AM PDT by rmmcdaniell
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