How a forest stopped a fire in its tracks

Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | 7-22-03 | NYT reprint

[farmfriend]

Rights, farms, environment ping.

Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.

[E.G.C.]

BTTT!!!!!

[hattend]

BTTT

[AlaskaErik]

Expect the eco-terrorist lobby to bury this information and put their own spin on it.

[T. P. Pole]

Last year my family and I were in so Cal for a funeral and drove through the mountains near Wrightwood and Lone Pine canyon. There was the signs of a recent fire.

After a while I noticed a trend where the fire burned on the left-hand side of the road but not the right.

Even my 8-year-old son could figure out that it was the road that stopped the fire.

[farmfriend]

www.azfire.org

Both of these photos were taken on August 8, 2002. Both landscapes were attacked by the Rodeo-Chedeski fire.

The barren shot looks south from State highway 260 on the way from Heber to Show Low. The other looks west from US highway 60 from Show Low south toward Globe. What's the difference between these two pictures?

Why is one recovering while the other isn't? Fuel loads, and nothing else. The difference is who managed the land.

The lush, recovering land is managed by Native Americans who log and otherwise manage their land. The ash heap adorned with skinny crooked poles belongs to the Federal Government. Various NGO's and complicit Federal judges, have dictated it be managed as "pristine wilderness," as if an overgrown forest that had been logged for decades "knew" how to return to pristine condition without an awful lot of work.

Which management policy works best?? You decide.

[Ursus arctos horribilis]

Au contrare to the green weenies running through the western forests screaming the sky is falling. 60% of all US wood products are harvested from tree farms in 13 southern states. Wood is a renewable sustainable resource.

[farmfriend]

I love the sound of a chainsaw in the morning.

[waRNmother.armyboots]

Finally... someone acknowledges the laws of physics. This is not rocket science, but we should not confuse the environmental tree huggers with the facts.

[Bruce Buckley]

I seem to recall several months ago, our supposedly dim witted President remarked in a visit to a National Forest, that it was common sense to remove "kindling" from the forest.

Do you think that anyone will acknowledge his prescience?

[TenthAmendmentChampion]

Bump!

[Darksheare]

And the sad part is, they have burned down several million acres under the stupid assumption that the fires that exist are natural.
Thinning the trees and removing dead brush and fuel is a good idea, too bad they won't.
The greenies won't be happy until they've killed every living thing, and burned everyone out of their homes, reduced mankind to eating twigs, and abolished the internal combustion engine.
So until someone with brains gets stuck with the top slot of whatever agency decides it, we'll keep having ravaging destructive fires.

[farmfriend]

Ah, come on. Tell us what you really think.

[Conservative4Ever]

thanks for the graphic pictures. Yep...land and fire management are soooo important. Maybe the enviroweenies will begin to listen. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this one out.

Red

[farmfriend]

Those wonderful pictures were taken by freeper Carry_Okie.

[Darksheare]

That is what I really think.
Put even simpler: This makes too much sense, therefore that is what will not happen.
As I have said elsewhere and been flamed for it, TRUE conservation is responsible stewardship of the land.
Meaning: Logging and thinning the forest, removal of tinderbrush, 'forest maintenence'.

The Greenies do not represent conservation.
They represent the destruction of mankind. Follow their flawgic to it's logical conclusion, and man cannot eat anything or cook it, nor can you wear anything NOT made from hemp, you can't drive anywhere, and you cannot live anywhere as it might hurt the sensibilities of some fly or newt somewhere.
That means mankind must be extinct at worst, or controlled like breeding cattle where only the select get to reproduce.

They're going to spike this study, just wait.
The greenies will ignore it or spike it, saying that it doesn't fit with their lynx hair studies.

[farmfriend]

As I have said elsewhere and been flamed for it, TRUE conservation is responsible stewardship of the land. Meaning: Logging and thinning the forest, removal of tinderbrush, 'forest maintenence'.

You'll get no flames from me. I am a true proponent of the Natural Process

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[Darksheare]

Thank God!

How long until the greenies do try to spike the story though, or at least try to spin it?
To me, the greenies represent everything that is actually anti-connservation. It's like the Muslims screaming that they represent the one true compassionate god while at the same time screaming kill all infidels.
Same behavior, different sack and wrapper for the greenies.

[farmfriend]

They won't have to kill it or spin it. The leftist media will never report it.