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The GOP's New Deal: Big tent, big government, big mistake
The American Conservative ^ | July 28, 2003 | Timothy P. Carney

Posted on 07/29/2003 11:34:21 AM PDT by The Old Hoosier

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1 posted on 07/29/2003 11:34:21 AM PDT by The Old Hoosier
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To: ex-snook
Ping.
2 posted on 07/29/2003 11:34:52 AM PDT by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might.)
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To: The Old Hoosier
The more the White House forces uncomfortable votes like this, the less conservatives like Burr and DeMint are attracted to running for Senate. Fewer Burrs and DeMints means more Lincoln Chafees and Arlen Specters.

Which will be the end result. So much for strategery. I thought in 2000 we'd get a principled conservative in GWB...looks like I should've done my homework.

3 posted on 07/29/2003 11:40:30 AM PDT by BureaucratusMaximus (if we're not going to act like a constitutional republic...lets be the best empire we can be...)
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...The attempt to disarm the Left by co-opting their issues fails in the end. The Left can move infinitely to the Left—and it does...

...Sure enough, Kennedy has called this massive new drug entitlement “a down-payment”—presumably on increasingly socialized health care...
4 posted on 07/29/2003 11:44:25 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Reposted comment with the truth still plain to see!)
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...Sure enough, Kennedy has called this massive new drug entitlement “a down-payment”—presumably on increasingly socialized health care...

Because of skyrocketing costs in all areas of healthcare (following the advent and exploitation of third-party pay), socialized healthcare is an inevitability.

The only question is when.

6 posted on 07/29/2003 11:55:41 AM PDT by HughSeries
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To: The Old Hoosier
bump
8 posted on 07/29/2003 11:58:40 AM PDT by tomakaze
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To: The Old Hoosier
Hey thanks for your technical help. It was simpler for me to grab the whole screen page. I can see that the solication included was a problem.

In the first post I mentioned that Rush Limbaugh was pretty long and loud today about the Democrats not standing for anything. This article makes the point that if Rush wants to know what a Democrat stands for, he should just ask Bush.

9 posted on 07/29/2003 11:59:51 AM PDT by ex-snook (American jobs need BALANCED TRADE. We buy from you, you buy from us.)
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To: The Old Hoosier

I remember when there was such a thing a a real Republican.

10 posted on 07/29/2003 12:04:38 PM PDT by putupon (this text is to occupy the space between the parentheses)
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To: PassionateConservative
Don't blame Bush. Blame conservatives for supporting him in the primaries.

Quite true...I stand corrected.

11 posted on 07/29/2003 12:06:53 PM PDT by BureaucratusMaximus (if we're not going to act like a constitutional republic...lets be the best empire we can be...)
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To: PassionateConservative
So, will socialized healthcare increase or decrease cost of healthcare.

Depends on how it's administered. Total healthcare costs could decrease if charges and prices are scheduled by the government. In that case, and in the absence of competition, quality can plummet, and numbers of doctors could decrease.

Obviously the burden of pay will shift to taxpayers. Most taxpayers already pay -- in the form of insurance, deductibles, etc., and in taxes for existing entitlements.

Regardless, it is coming. And one can easily argue the healthcare industries and professionals are largely responsible for bringing it on themselves.

12 posted on 07/29/2003 12:08:07 PM PDT by HughSeries
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To: The Old Hoosier

" Stained glass out of glass coloured of Fabian Society, produced on the initiative of the writer George Bernard Shaw, eminent member of Fabian. One sees it with work with another character of first plan, Sidney Webb - founder member of Fabian Society (and founder in London of " London School of Economics " [ Marxist ] which since 1894 contributes to provide to the British Establishment its top executives) - while with the assistance of robust masses it works to reforge the world according to the legend which appears in top of the window: " remoult it nearer to the hearts desire ".

The followers of lower degree are represented knelt in bottom, in worship in front of a pile of books of socialist propaganda which one manages with difficulty to decipher some titles : " Fabian Tracs and Essays " (Opuscules fabiens et essais), " Industrial Democracy " (Dimocratie industrielle), " History of Trade Unions " (His- toire des Trade Unions, les syndicats anglais), English Social Government (Gouverne- ment social anglais), etc. The inscriptions on the ecu towards the center of the stained glass, a little on the left make a synthesis between the two scenes '.

13 posted on 07/29/2003 12:14:00 PM PDT by AdamSelene235 (Like all the jolly good fellows, I drink my whiskey clear....)
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To: putupon
As I have posted before.....

Bold and underline formatting is mine.

~~ Ronald Reagan, in his autobiography, An American Life


"When I began entering into the give and take of legislative bargaining in Sacramento, a lot of the most radical conservatives who had supported me during the election didn't like it.

"Compromise" was a dirty word to them and they wouldn't face the fact that we couldn't get all of what we wanted today. They wanted all or nothing and they wanted it all at once. If you don't get it all, some said, don't take anything.

"I'd learned while negotiating union contracts that you seldom got everything you asked for. And I agreed with FDR, who said in 1933: 'I have no expectations of making a hit every time I come to bat. What I seek is the highest possible batting average.'

"If you got seventy-five or eighty percent of what you were asking for, I say, you take it and fight for the rest later, and that's what I told these radical conservatives who never got used to it.



Memories may 'light the corner of your mind'.......but 'tis always a good thing to keep them HONEST memories, no? Reagan understood the political realities. President Bush does too, imo.

15 posted on 07/29/2003 12:15:45 PM PDT by justshe (Educate....not Denigrate !)
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To: The Old Hoosier
But bringing up liberal legislation puts conservative lawmakers in a dilemma. They either need to betray their president and invite attacks of extremism (“he’s too far right for the president”), or betray their principles.

Only in a town where backbone is absent, fear is rampant, and betrayal of one's own principles is routine could this be considered a dilemma.

16 posted on 07/29/2003 12:19:17 PM PDT by HughSeries
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To: Sir Gawain
Bush is toast.
17 posted on 07/29/2003 12:21:02 PM PDT by Uncle Bill
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To: HughSeries
...socialized healthcare is an inevitability.

Truer words were never spoken. I only hope it holds off a little longer, so I can benefit from its prime years, before it goes bellyup (unlike SS, which I've been paying into but will never get anything out of).

18 posted on 07/29/2003 12:22:02 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: BureaucratusMaximus
BUSH IS A RINO - LETS GET SERIOUS AND ELECT A CONSERVATIVE.
19 posted on 07/29/2003 12:22:11 PM PDT by sasafras (sasafras (RINOs are worse than liberals))
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To: justshe
Reagan was heading in this direction ------> with a Democrat controlled Congress.

Bush is heading in this direction <------ with a Republican controlled Congress.

20 posted on 07/29/2003 12:22:12 PM PDT by Sir Gawain (Active freepers with multiple IDs - http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=19726)
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